LUKE 21 Bible Fulfilled!!!!!??

[InChristAlways]

Hi Folks,
Is there anyone here that can prove the whole bible was fulfilled with the first century destruction of Jerusalem? If it wasn't, then there a major CONTRADICTION in the BIBLE folks. Revelation is of course the destruction of Jerusalem in the first century, no doubt, but what about that 1000yr period and "first resurrection" in it? What are others views and why is it "heretical" to believe in complete bible fulfillment but dispenstationalism/futurism are not "heretical"? Could the "creeds" possibly be in error somehow? Thanks for any views. God bless.

Luke 21:20 " But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation is near. 21 "Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those who are in the midst of her depart, and let not those who are in the country enter her. 22 "For these are the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled. 23 "But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! For there will be great distress in the land and wrath upon this people. 24 "And they will fall by the edge of the sword, and be led away captive into all nations. And Jerusalem will be trampled by Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.

Revelation 11:1 Then I was given a reed like a measuring rod. And the angel stood, saying, "Rise and measure the temple of God, the altar, and those who worship there(that generation of jews?). 2 "But leave out the court which is outside the temple, and do not measure it, for it has been given to the Gentiles. And they will tread/TRAMPLE the holy city underfoot [for] forty-two months.

(NKJV) Luke 21:22 "For these are the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.




(NASB) Luke 21:22 because these are days of vengeance, so that all things which are written will be fulfilled. (KJV) Luke 21:22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled. (Young) Luke 21:22 because these are days of vengeance, to fulfil all things that have been written. (Greek/English Interlinear (tr) NT) Luke 21:22 oti <3754> {FOR} hmerai <2250> {DAYS} ekdikhsewV <1557> {OF AVENGING} autai <3778> {THESE} eisin <1526> (5748) tou <3588> {ARE,} plhrwqhnai <4137> (5683) {THAT MAY BE ACCOMPLISHED} panta <3956> {ALL THINGS} ta <3588> {THAT} gegrammena <1125> (5772) {HAVE BEEN WRITTEN.}

[Magdalenbrother]

I have an awful back ache and I feel lonely. Can the Biblical prophecies help me forget my misery?

[InChristAlways]

Revelation 11 shows the angel sounding the 7th trumpet after the "2 witnesses" are taken up, then comes the wraths, judgements and rewards, with no 1000yr period in between(no where shown in the Bible except for revelation!!).
ALL THINGS WRITTEN upon the the destruction of Jerusalem, no other way to read it unless one just does not want to believe the Word of God. So preterists can argue all day long with futurists, but in the end, the full preterists can win by default just on this passage. BTW, Jesus uses Daniel and the abomination, so this would include EVERYTHING written in Daniel would be fulfilled, such as the all the dead laying in the dust raising. The churches may have to look at their "creeds" interpretations and focus on the book of revelation more diligently to see what it is really representing. God bless.

Luke 21:20 " But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation is near. 21 "Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those who are in the midst of her depart, and let not those who are in the country enter her. 22 "For these are the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled. 23 "But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! For there will be great distress in the land and wrath upon this people. 24 "And they will fall by the edge of the sword, and be led away captive into all nations. And Jerusalem will be trampled by Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.

Revelation 11:1 Then I was given a reed like a measuring rod. And the angel stood, saying, "Rise and measure the temple of God, the altar, and those who worship there(that generation of jews?). 2 "But leave out the court which is outside the temple, and do not measure it, for it has been given to the Gentiles. And they will tread/TRAMPLE the holy city underfoot [for] forty-two months.

reve 11:15 Then the seventh angel sounded: And there were loud voices in heaven, saying, "The kingdoms of this world have become [the kingdoms] of our Lord and of His Christ, and He shall reign forever and ever!" 16 And the twenty-four elders who sat before God on their thrones fell on their faces and worshiped God, 17 saying: "We give You thanks, O Lord God Almighty, The One who is and who was and who is to come, Because You have taken Your great power and reigned. 18 The nations were angry, and Your wrath has come, And the time of the dead, that they should be judged, And that You should reward Your servants the prophets and the saints, And those who fear Your name, small and great, And should destroy those who destroy the earth."

Daniel 12:1 "At that time Michael shall stand up, The great prince who stands [watch] over the sons of your people; And there shall be a time of trouble, Such as never was since there was a nation, [Even] to that time. And at that time your people shall be delivered, Every one who is found written in the book. 2 And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, Some to everlasting life, Some to shame [and] everlasting contempt. 3 Those who are wise shall shine Like the brightness of the firmament, And those who turn many to righteousness Like the stars forever and ever. 7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which [was] upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to shatter the power of the holy people, all these [things] shall be finished. {a time...: or, part} [i]8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what [shall be] the end of these [things]? 9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words [are] closed up and sealed till the time of the end.

[judge]

Hi Folks,
Is there anyone here that can prove the whole bible was fulfilled with the first century destruction of Jerusalem?

What sort of proof would you like?

[InChristAlways]

What sort of proof would you like?Since partial preterists and futurists don't like to deal with Luke 21:22 I would like to know how Jesus could say All Things Written(all the OT at least) would be fulfilled upon the Day of the Lord and destruction of Jerusalem.
The main point is the "resurrection" and "second coming". According to revelation, all the things written would have been fulfilled if indeed revelation is that event. Chapt 11 even says everything would happen at that event but because of the "1000yrs" in it, a lot of churches are split on what that is. The way I view it, the white throne judgement is the same event as the 6th seal in chapt 6, one view from heaven, the other from earth.
I don't know what the "resurrection" in chapt 20 is, but it has to be the same event as chapt 14, the elect being gathered, then the wrath after satan is loosed. While most are concerned with argueing the Olivet Discourse, they should be argueing revelation.

reve 11:17 saying: "We give You thanks, O Lord God Almighty, The One who is and who was and who is to come, Because You have taken Your great power and reigned. 18 The nations were angry, and Your wrath has come, And the time of the dead, that they should be judged, And that You should reward Your servants the prophets and the saints, And those who fear Your name, small and great, Andshould destroy those who destroy the earth."


Luke 21:20 " But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation is near. 21 "Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those who are in the midst of her depart, and let not those who are in the country enter her. 22 "For these are the days of vengeance, hat all things which are written may be fulfilled. 23 "But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! For there will be great distress in the land and wrath upon this people. 24 "And they will fall by the edge of the sword, and be led away captive into all nations. And Jerusalem will be trampled by Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.

Revelation 11:1 Then I was given a reed like a measuring rod. And the angel stood, saying, "Rise and measure the temple of God, the altar, andthose who worship there. 2 "But leave out the court which is outside the temple, and do not measure it, for it has been given to the Gentiles. And they will tread the holy city underfoot [for] forty-two months.

[InChristAlways]

What sort of proof would you like?Hi. Proof that Jesus was telling the truth. Is this the destruction of Jerusalem in the first century or a future destruction? If it happened in the first century, than at least ALL that was written in the Prophets of the OT would have been fulfilled. Unless Luke made a "mistake" and the Holy Spirit told Him something in "error" or accidently wrote "ALL" instead of "SOME". At least we do know God came to His temple in the first century and then destroyed it later, which the jews continue to disbelieve for some reason. Maybe their OT is just different than mine but the fact is, that temple is no longer standing. Malachi 3:1 "Behold, I send My messenger, And he will prepare the way before Me. And the Lord, whom you seek, Will suddenly come to His temple, Even the Messenger of the covenant, In whom you delight. Behold, He is coming," Says the LORD of hosts.Of course the Bible is riddled with "false prophecies" and contradictions, so why not one more? Are they really false, or just bad "interpretations" from the churches and "jews"? God bless.http://www.awitness.org/lostmess/fprophet.htmlLuke 21:20 " But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation is near. 21 "Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those who are in the midst of her depart, and let not those who are in the country enter her. Luke 21:22 "For these are the days of vengeance, that ALL things which are WRITTEN may be FULFILLED. 23 "But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! For there will be great distress in the land and wrath upon this people. 24 "And they will fall by the edge of the sword, and be led away captive into all nations. And Jerusalem will be trampled by Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.

matt 23:37 " O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the one who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under [her] wings, but you were not willing! 38 "See! Your house is left to you desolate; 39 "for I say to you, you shall see Me no more till you say, 'Blessed [is] He who comes in the name of the LORD!' "