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InChristAlways
January 11th 2005, 02:19 AM
Is there any way that 1000yr period could be the "Day of the Lord"?
Revelation shows 3 different endtime events, chapt 14, 19, and 20 which I believe may be all One event just different symbology. Revelation chapt 14 shows the gathering of the Elect and then the Grapes of Wrath(note Isaiah 5 on Jerusalem, Judah).
Revelation is not in chronlogical order, but more than anything else it uses different symbology for similar events. I and some others use this forum site to discuss just the book of revelation if you are interested.
http://newjerusalemministriesboards.com/forumdisplay.php?f=82
Any views on this would be appreciated. Thanks and God bless.

Satan,Dragon would have to be "bound" before this "gathering" I believe(1000yrs?).

reve 14:14 Then I looked, and behold, a white cloud, and on the cloud sat One like the Son of Man, having on His head a golden crown, and in His hand a sharp sickle....16 So He who sat on the cloud thrust in His sickle on the earth, and the earth was reaped.

"Satan/Dragon" would then have to be "unbound" for the wraths(1000yrs?) and could symbolically be the "locusts" of chapt 9 and great supper of God in chapt 19 (note ezekiel 39).

reve 14:18And another angel came out from the altar, who had power over fire, 19 So the angel thrust his sickle into the earth and gathered the vine of the earth, and threw into the great winepress of the wrath of God. 20 And the winepress was trampled outside the city,....

Notice in Jeremiah 1 that God is sending ALL the familes of the kingdoms of the north against Jerusalem. This can't refer to the first destruction of Jerusalem by Babylon as that was just ONE nation. In Jeremiah 2, it uses the same symbology of "coming in the clouds" as does revelation. Most all prophecies are against "physical" Judah,Jerusalem.

Jeremi 1:14 Then the LORD said to me: "Out of the north calamity shall break forth On all the inhabitants of the land. 15 For behold, I am calling ALL the families of the kingdoms of the north (notice the "10 kings" in revelation), says the LORD; "They shall come and each one set his throne At the entrance of the gates of Jerusalem, Against all its walls all around, And against all the cities of Judah. 16 I will utter My judgments Against them concerning all their wickedness, Because they have forsaken Me, Burned incense to other gods, And worshiped the works of their own hands.

[i]Here, God appears to be using the "10 kings" like He used the King of Babylon as His servant against Jerusalem the first time. Jeremiah 2 shows Dan and Ephraim as the northern kingdoms and they are the ones missing in revelation. Pretty interesting.



reve 17:16 "And the ten horns/KINGS which you saw on the beast, these will hate the harlot, make her desolate and naked, eat her flesh and burn her with fire. 17 "For GOD has put it into their hearts to fulfill His purpose, to be of one mind/judgement, and to give their kingdom to the beast, until the words of God are fulfilled.

Jeremiah 2:13 "Behold, he shall come up like clouds,And his chariots like a whirlwind. His horses are swifter than eagles. Woe to us, for we are plundered!" 14 O Jerusalem, wash your heart from wickedness, That you may be saved. How long shall your evil thoughts lodge within you? 15 For a voice declares from Dan And proclaims affliction from Mount Ephraim: 16 "Make mention to the nations, Yes, proclaim against Jerusalem, [That] watchers come from a far country And raise their voice against the cities of Judah

reve 1;7 Behold, He is coming with clouds, and every eye will see Him, even they who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him. Even so, Amen.

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InChristAlways
January 22nd 2005, 02:09 PM
Many profess to believe the 1000yr period in revelation is a "literal" thousand yr period or "reign". Because of chapt 14 being both the reaping of the elect and the wrath on the wicked, I propose to say the 1000yr period is both the "day of the Lord", and the eternal reign of the saints.
In my belief, I feel the 1000yr reign of the saints is "forever", but the 1000yr period for the wrath on the wicked is as "one day". Look at revelation 14 and reve 20. Any views from others on this? God bless.

Do saints only reign for "1000yrs!?!?! I thought we reigened and lived forever in Christ.

reve 20:4 And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. 5 But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.

reve 14:[i]14 Then I looked, and behold, a white cloud, and on the cloud sat [One] like the Son of Man, having on His head a golden crown, and in His hand a sharp sickle. 15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to Him who sat on the cloud, "Thrust in Your sickle and reap, for the time has come for You to reap, for the harvest of the earth is ripe." 16 So He who sat on the cloud thrust in His sickle on the earth, and the earth was reaped.

This is where a 1000yr equals "one day", the Day of the Lord in wrath and vengeance as prophecied in the OT against Jerusalem:

reve 20:7 Now when the thousand years have expired, Satan will be released from his prison

reve 14:18 And another angel came out from the altar, who had power over fire, and he cried with a loud cry to him who had the sharp sickle, saying, "Thrust in your sharp sickle and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth, for her grapes are fully ripe." 19 So the angel thrust his sickle into the earth and gathered the vine of the earth, and threw [it] into the great winepress of the wrath of God.

Revelation 16 shows 3 "spirits" going out to gather people for the great day of the Lord God Almighty. These are the ones being thrown into the "lake of fire", another words, 1 evil corrupt system with different evil parts.

reve 16:[i]13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs [coming] out of the mouth of the dragon, out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. 14 For they are spirits of demons, performing signs, [which] go out to the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.