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gary cook
October 15th 2005, 11:52 AM
What most people can not understand is?GOD IS 1ST INTERESTED IN OUR SPIRIT.It MUST COME 1ST.If we need sickness to be humble or too follow HIm.Then it may happen.HIS perfect will?Is us healed and having all spiritual blessing.WALKING ON THE WATER!But HE will not put anything,before your spirit or your growing too be like HIS SON JESUS CHRIST!It may take sickness to keep us humble and in fellowship with HIM .If that be the cases with you?Thank HIm.HE LOVES YOU THAT much.BECAUSE as you know?When we suffer?HE SUFFERS.
JUSt as our kids suffer?We suffer
WE MUST SEE this simple truth!We need to get in touch with our spirit,if they are feed and used by the LORd.The rest falls into place.
It has always been the spirit 1st.
I personally think?Everything recieved of us ,given by the HOLY GHOST is auto matic.of course we should or could LAY HANDS ON OTHERS for them to recieve.But it does not have to be this way.As we see?PAUL recieved most everything right from GOD.Even most of the WORD we now live by!We indeed have full access.We count some things above another.But the truth is?HE counts most every thing as important .The things that are best are the things that bless many.it has always been to give.HE gives ,WE give.Never just for us to selfishly have.But even then ?HE will give,But not a great deal.HE is a giver .WE MUST BE GIVERS.We must quit thionking I want.And start thinking,I want! to give
LORD GIVE ME,THAT I MIGHT GIVE IT TOO OTHERS
I WANT TOO LIFT YOU UP LORD.AND LOVE AS YOU LOVE ME!
USE ME BY GIVING TO ME !THAT I WILL BOLDLY GIVE IT TO OTHERS OR USE IT,NOT FOR ME LORD !BUT TO SHARE AND BLESSS OTHERS!I WANT NOTHING FOR ME LORD!Then if we truly believe our own WORDS.GREAT MIRACLE WILL HAPPEN!
Our minds must be renewed to think like our LORD.WE CLEARLY SEE?HE GAVE EVERYTHING FOR THE CHURCH and died for the world.CAN WE DO LESS?You can take this teaching to the graveand still reap from it.it will never be worthless!It is the very mind of GOD!
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Joh 17:16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. (Jud 1:23) And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.

Ken1Burton
October 22nd 2005, 09:53 PM
Gary.

You are right as far as God gives so we can share, not stockpile. But there are many other things working in the middle of all this.

God does not want praying to be an easy way of getting. For it would draw people for the wrong reason. If a person just had to pray to be physically healed. His being a lot cheaper then Blue cross medical insurance would get a lot of converts. And save time waiting in the Doctor’s office seeing God does not over book patients.

The same as prosperity, praying for loved ones in a danger zone, etc. God desires we love Him and Pray as a way of being in constant communication with Him, Easiest way is to drop the Amen. and just keep talking.

I am sure there are many Prayers God is just waiting for. Imagine “God, send me a worst enemy to learn to love.” “I need all the help I can get, I need to see the enemies I have now are not all that bad, and there are a lot worst ones, so I need to get them in perspective.”

But there are also timetables God has set. Israel has not yet awaken out of the Sleep from seeing Jesus as the Messiah: So a prayer from the nation of Israel as a whole has to wait.

(ISAIAH 29:10) For the Lord hath poured out upon you the spirit of
deep sleep, and hath closed your eyes: the prophets and your
rulers, the seers hath he covered. (KJV)
(ISAIAH 29:11) And the vision of all is become unto you as the
words of a book that is sealed, which men deliver to one that is
learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I cannot;
for it is sealed: (KJV)
(ISAIAH 29:12) And the book is delivered to him that is not
learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not
learned. (KJV)

(ROMANS 11:25) For I would not, brethren, that ye should be
ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own
conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the
fulness of the Gentiles be come in. (KJV)
(ROMANS 11:26) And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written,
There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away
ungodliness from Jacob: (KJV)

The Alarm clock is set for 2029 A.D. and it will go off then.

(AMOS 3:7) Surely the Lord God will do nothing, but he revealeth
his secret unto his servants the prophets. (KJV)


Ken

gary cook
October 22nd 2005, 10:07 PM
I think the LORD will call us very soon.Those BORN OF GOD!

Ken1Burton
October 22nd 2005, 10:45 PM
Gary.

If you mean what is called the "Rapture" you are 1976 years too late, and there is no other bus for the dead rose with Christ. We now go one by one, Unless He sends a Hurricane.

God takes Home about 200,000 every day, Some days He sends a Cyclone and takes Home a million. God laid all iniquity upon Jesus in Isaiah 53:6, and rendered to man His righteousness in Job 33:26.

We are all saved by grace, Believer or unbeliever. God concluded all in Unbelief. None of us deserved to be saved. None of us can boast. For by grace are we saved, Through Faith, and that not of ourselves, (Jesus gave us His) for it is a gift of God, and the Gifts and callings of God are Without repentnace.

(LUKE 18:31) Then he took unto him the twelve, and said unto them,
Behold, we go up to Jerusalem, and all things that are written by
the prophets concerning the Son of man shall be accomplished. (KJV)

These verses were concerning Jesus, spoken of by the prophets and had to be fulfilled the day of the cross:

(HOSEA 6:2) After two days will he revive us: in the third day he
will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight. (KJV)
(HOSEA 6:3) Then shall we know, if we follow on to know the Lord:
his going forth is prepared as the morning; and he shall come unto
us as the rain, as the latter and former rain unto the earth. (KJV)
(ZECHARIAH 9:11) As for thee also, by the blood of thy covenant I
have sent forth thy prisoners out of the pit wherein is no water. (KJV)

(ISAIAH 26:19) Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body
shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy
dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead.


Ken

gary cook
October 22nd 2005, 11:22 PM
Believe what you will.But the wrath of GOD will soon come upon the earth.We will not suffer HIS WRATH.HE loves HIS KIDS.And will never bring HIS wrath on us.I am leaving in the rapture.You can wait.
Mat 24:38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark,
Mat 24:39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Mat 24:40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
Mat 24:41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
Mat 24:42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a departure first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
This word departure is the word ,instead of falling away.i believe!
Luk 21:36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man. What i am sure is?I saw the city in 1976 heading toward the earth ,in space that was not ours .I believe it is picking up HIS BODY,the church!

Ken1Burton
October 23rd 2005, 05:32 PM
Gary.

I try not to pick what I believe, But search the Scriptures if what I believe is correct, and if not, what should be believed. It does not always come out the way I want it to. But the Scriptures have the Final word as God inspired them.

The day of the cross is seen as three pictures, 1=anger, 2=fury, 3=wrath. When God pours out His wrath, it is looking at the third picture for the day of the cross, seen as 1 24-hour period, They are pictures for the day of the cross, Wrath is not an attribute of a Loving God.

Jesus told us to love those who hate us, that we might be as our Father in Heaven.

(MATTHEW 5:44) But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them
that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them
which despitefully use you, and persecute you; (KJV)
(MATTHEW 5:45) That ye may be the children of your Father which is
in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the
good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. (KJV)

God sends His Rain upon the Just and the Unjust, and Jesus comes as the Rain. The Throne of Christ seen as the Sun in Psalms 89:36. All in Christ. The Body of Christ seen born the day of the cross with us in that Body, and the Heathen also:

(PSALMS 2:6) Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion. (KJV)
(PSALMS 2:7) I will declare the decree: the Lord hath said unto me,
Thou art my son; this day have I begotten thee. (KJV)
(PSALMS 2:8) Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine
inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy
possession. (KJV)

Jesus does not cast off His people (Jews) or forsake His inheritance (the Heathen)

(PSALMS 94:14) For the Lord will not cast off his people, neither
will he forsake his inheritance. (KJV)

Many are called (heathen which are called by My Name) and few are Chosen, or few are Jews, but all are saved.

The day of the cross, the people are as waters, Jesus as the ARK, the people lift up the Ark at Golgotha.

(PSALMS 29:10) The Lord sitteth upon the flood; yea, the Lord
sitteth king for ever. (KJV)

“For ever” is the day of the Cross, a day taken out of time, “For ever and ever” is the day of the Cross and everlasting future.

Jesus said of all that He had been given, He lost none but the Son of Perdition that the Scripture be fulfilled, Jesus was given twelve Disciples, He was also given power over Himself, to lay down His life, to take it up again, Jesus is the One who takes upon Himself the Sin of the World, He is lost to save all mankind. Prophecy shows Judas does not go into hell:

(JOB 33:27) He looketh upon men, and if any say, I have sinned, and
perverted that which was right, and it profited me not; (KJV)
(JOB 33:28) He will deliver his soul from going into the pit, and
his life shall see the light. (KJV)

Judas was doing God’s will, and was following what the Lord said to do:

(ZECHARIAH 11:13) And the Lord said unto me, Cast it unto the
potter: a goodly price that I was prised at of them. And I took the
thirty pieces of silver, and cast them to the potter in the house
of the Lord. (KJV)

Jesus is the Son of Perdition, He has to take Future sins to get the keys to death and hell you only get by dying a sinner, sin had to belong to Jesus at death to fulfill the law in Deuteronomy 24:16:

(DEUTERONOMY 24:16) The fathers shall not be put to death for the
children, neither shall the children be put to death for the
fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin. (KJV)

Jesus could not take our punishment, He had to take our sins as His Own, then be put to death for His Own sin, that is why God could not look on Jesus at Golgotha.

The falling away first was when all forsook Jesus, He has all future sins at Golgotha. Past and present sins then was paid for “By His stripes we are healed.”

Jesus exalts Himself above all that is CALLED CALLED CALLED God, Not what really is God, and what they were worshiping also was wrong.

Jesus is the son of David raised to be the Son of God as God swore in His Holiness it would be. the day of the cross, Jesus which is the House of David is AS GOD, and as He is dead part of the day, He is also seen as the Angel of the Lord:

(ZECHARIAH 12:8) In that day shall the Lord defend the inhabitants
of Jerusalem; and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be
as David; and the house of David shall be as God, as the angel of
the Lord before them. (KJV)

John is in the Spirit on the Lord’s day (day of the Cross) when He sees the City, New Jerusalem come down from God out of Heaven, the first 6-hours from Sunset to Midnight is Old Heaven, Jesus coming down with the 144 and Judas, seen as a wall in Revelation 21:17. So “He shall dwell with men.”

To dwell in Christ is to dwell in the Holy City. He is the Temple of it, He is the Light of it.

Ken

Cynic Sage
October 23rd 2005, 05:38 PM
What most people can not understand is?GOD IS 1ST INTERESTED IN OUR SPIRIT.It MUST COME 1ST.If we need sickness to be humble or too follow HIm.Then it may happen.HIS perfect will?Is us healed and having all spiritual blessing.WALKING ON THE WATER!But HE will not put anything,before your spirit or your growing too be like HIS SON JESUS CHRIST!It may take sickness to keep us humble and in fellowship with HIM .If that be the cases with you?Thank HIm.HE LOVES YOU THAT much.BECAUSE as you know?When we suffer?HE SUFFERS.
JUSt as our kids suffer?We suffer
WE MUST SEE this simple truth!We need to get in touch with our spirit,if they are feed and used by the LORd.The rest falls into place.
It has always been the spirit 1st.
I personally think?Everything recieved of us ,given by the HOLY GHOST is auto matic.of course we should or could LAY HANDS ON OTHERS for them to recieve.But it does not have to be this way.As we see?PAUL recieved most everything right from GOD.Even most of the WORD we now live by!We indeed have full access.We count some things above another.But the truth is?HE counts most every thing as important .The things that are best are the things that bless many.it has always been to give.HE gives ,WE give.Never just for us to selfishly have.But even then ?HE will give,But not a great deal.HE is a giver .WE MUST BE GIVERS.We must quit thionking I want.And start thinking,I want! to give
LORD GIVE ME,THAT I MIGHT GIVE IT TOO OTHERS
I WANT TOO LIFT YOU UP LORD.AND LOVE AS YOU LOVE ME!
USE ME BY GIVING TO ME !THAT I WILL BOLDLY GIVE IT TO OTHERS OR USE IT,NOT FOR ME LORD !BUT TO SHARE AND BLESSS OTHERS!I WANT NOTHING FOR ME LORD!Then if we truly believe our own WORDS.GREAT MIRACLE WILL HAPPEN!
Our minds must be renewed to think like our LORD.WE CLEARLY SEE?HE GAVE EVERYTHING FOR THE CHURCH and died for the world.CAN WE DO LESS?You can take this teaching to the graveand still reap from it.it will never be worthless!It is the very mind of GOD!
_________________
Joh 17:16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. (Jud 1:23) And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.

You might want to watch your punctuation. If you use proper punctuation, people won't automatically assume you are a nutbar right off the bat. Instead, they will come to that conclusion after they finish reading your post. :smile:

Thank You,
Johnny Eccentric. :hi:

Maybe you should be asking God to heal your Spacebar and Shift key.