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David Ben-Ariel
November 24th 2005, 10:55 PM
"Christmas is about giving." SAYS WHO? Who started that BIG LIE? Undoubtedly those with something to sell, the modern moneychangers! Look at the folks about you rushing like sheep to the slaughter, to the "sales" and such that they simply CANNOT AFFORD. Going into debt certainly isn't biblical, so why not break free from the trance? The "Christmas" rush is a "drug" pushed by commercial pimps prostituting a supposedly Christian holiday for their ungodly profits! They hold hands around the cash register and sing, "What a friend we have in Jesus."

The whole idea of giving gifts has gotten out of hand. First it's not Jesus' birthday. Second the wise men didn't exchange gifts amongst each other but gave their gifts fit for a King to the King of the Jews (two years old and living in a house at that time - which is why Herod slaughtered the children two years and under trying to abort the Messiah's ascension to David's Throne).

If Christmas is supposed to be about Christ (and some sincerely believe it is, still in denial that it's a pagan holiday God wants no part of), why let Santa steal the show? Why do folks pretend they care that Jesus was born when they deny His life the rest of the year? Why do folks get angry when you mention these facts and they're not even religious? The herd doesn't want their trance broken, so they'll go broke keeping alive pagan festivals and foolishness that will be the death of many.

"Harmless" Christmas celebrations, abominations to God and rejected by Christ, are setting the stage for our worst nightmare: our family and friends are going to be shipped off like cattle, since our countries are prophesied to suffer national defeat and deportation due to such idolatrous ideas and tinsel traditions! WAKE UP!

Christmas is an ABOMINATION. (http://christmascondemned.blogspot.com)

Pilgrim
November 24th 2005, 11:00 PM
"Christmas is about giving." SAYS WHO? Who started that BIG LIE? Undoubtedly those with something to sell, the modern moneychangers! Look at the folks about you rushing like sheep to the slaughter, to the "sales" and such that they simply CANNOT AFFORD. Going into debt certainly isn't biblical, so why not break free from the trance? The "Christmas" rush is a "drug" pushed by commercial pimps prostituting a supposedly Christian holiday for their ungodly profits! They hold hands around the cash register and sing, "What a friend we have in Jesus."

The whole idea of giving gifts has gotten out of hand. First it's not Jesus' birthday. Second the wise men didn't exchange gifts amongst each other but gave their gifts fit for a King to the King of the Jews (two years old and living in a house at that time - which is why Herod slaughtered the children two years and under trying to abort the Messiah's ascension to David's Throne).

If Christmas is supposed to be about Christ (and some sincerely believe it is, still in denial that it's a pagan holiday God wants no part of), why let Santa steal the show? Why do folks pretend they care that Jesus was born when they deny His life the rest of the year? Why do folks get angry when you mention these facts and they're not even religious? The herd doesn't want their trance broken, so they'll go broke keeping alive pagan festivals and foolishness that will be the death of many.

"Harmless" Christmas celebrations, abominations to God and rejected by Christ, are setting the stage for our worst nightmare: our family and friends are going to be shipped off like cattle, since our countries are prophesied to suffer national defeat and deportation due to such idolatrous ideas and tinsel traditions! WAKE UP!

Christmas is an ABOMINATION. (http://christmascondemned.blogspot.com)

:huh: :lolo:

furay
November 24th 2005, 11:00 PM
Somebody's had a little too much eggnog. :lolo:

Shadow Phoenix
November 24th 2005, 11:03 PM
The angels celebrated the birth of Christ, so we thought we would too.

Pilgrim
November 24th 2005, 11:06 PM
The angels celebrated the birth of Christ, so we thought we would too.

:thumb:

mickiel
November 24th 2005, 11:22 PM
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Christmas is an ABOMINATION. (http://christmascondemned.blogspot.com)



Christmas is not an abomination, its just a meaningless pagan holiday. The abomination is the aittitude of people who worship it, while refusing to study its orgin and seek to understand how God feels about pagan things.

Espically if they call themselves followers of God. Controlled ignorance is the abomination.

Chrysostom
November 25th 2005, 12:17 AM
Look at the folks about you rushing like sheep to the slaughter, to the "sales" and such that they simply CANNOT AFFORD.
They are under no compulsion to spend their money; or to spend more than they have.

The "Christmas" rush is a "drug" pushed by commercial pimps prostituting a supposedly Christian holiday for their ungodly profits!
Yes, ‘Christmas’ minus ‘Christ’.

They hold hands around the cash register and sing, "What a friend we have in Jesus."

What a friend we have in Jesus,
All our credit cards to smash;
Are ye weak and heavy laden?
Take it from the Lord in cash.

… the wise men didn't exchange gifts amongst each other but gave their gifts fit for a King to the King of the Jews (two years old and living in a house at that time …
Well spotted – most nativity scenes erroneously have the Magi turning up in the stable (vide Matthew 2:11).

why let Santa steal the show?
Exactly. On a related point, churches have most of their carol services during Advent, rather than during the Christmas season proper. If December 25th is regarded as Jesus’ birthday, then one would think there would be a greater expression of joy after the child’s arrival, rather than before it.

"Harmless" Christmas celebrations, abominations to God and rejected by Christ, are setting the stage for our worst nightmare: our family and friends are going to be shipped off like cattle...
To where?

Christmas is an ABOMINATION.
Perhaps you'll agree that those who reject Jesus Christ should go to work on December 25th.

Hitch
November 25th 2005, 12:19 AM
"Christmas is about giving." SAYS WHO? Who started that BIG LIE? Undoubtedly those with something to sell, the modern moneychangers! Look at the folks about you rushing like sheep to the slaughter, to the "sales" and such that they simply CANNOT AFFORD. Going into debt certainly isn't biblical, so why not break free from the trance? The "Christmas" rush is a "drug" pushed by commercial pimps prostituting a supposedly Christian holiday for their ungodly profits! They hold hands around the cash register and sing, "What a friend we have in Jesus."

The whole idea of giving gifts has gotten out of hand. First it's not Jesus' birthday. Second the wise men didn't exchange gifts amongst each other but gave their gifts fit for a King to the King of the Jews (two years old and living in a house at that time - which is why Herod slaughtered the children two years and under trying to abort the Messiah's ascension to David's Throne).

If Christmas is supposed to be about Christ (and some sincerely believe it is, still in denial that it's a pagan holiday God wants no part of), why let Santa steal the show? Why do folks pretend they care that Jesus was born when they deny His life the rest of the year? Why do folks get angry when you mention these facts and they're not even religious? The herd doesn't want their trance broken, so they'll go broke keeping alive pagan festivals and foolishness that will be the death of many.

"Harmless" Christmas celebrations, abominations to God and rejected by Christ, are setting the stage for our worst nightmare: our family and friends are going to be shipped off like cattle, since our countries are prophesied to suffer national defeat and deportation due to such idolatrous ideas and tinsel traditions! WAKE UP!

Christmas is an ABOMINATION. (http://christmascondemned.blogspot.com)You are misinformed,this is the eschatology forum.

Cynic Sage
November 25th 2005, 12:19 AM
"Christmas is about giving." SAYS WHO? Who started that BIG LIE? Undoubtedly those with something to sell, the modern moneychangers! Look at the folks about you rushing like sheep to the slaughter, to the "sales" and such that they simply CANNOT AFFORD. Going into debt certainly isn't biblical, so why not break free from the trance? The "Christmas" rush is a "drug" pushed by commercial pimps prostituting a supposedly Christian holiday for their ungodly profits! They hold hands around the cash register and sing, "What a friend we have in Jesus."

The whole idea of giving gifts has gotten out of hand. First it's not Jesus' birthday. Second the wise men didn't exchange gifts amongst each other but gave their gifts fit for a King to the King of the Jews (two years old and living in a house at that time - which is why Herod slaughtered the children two years and under trying to abort the Messiah's ascension to David's Throne).

If Christmas is supposed to be about Christ (and some sincerely believe it is, still in denial that it's a pagan holiday God wants no part of), why let Santa steal the show? Why do folks pretend they care that Jesus was born when they deny His life the rest of the year? Why do folks get angry when you mention these facts and they're not even religious? The herd doesn't want their trance broken, so they'll go broke keeping alive pagan festivals and foolishness that will be the death of many.

"Harmless" Christmas celebrations, abominations to God and rejected by Christ, are setting the stage for our worst nightmare: our family and friends are going to be shipped off like cattle, since our countries are prophesied to suffer national defeat and deportation due to such idolatrous ideas and tinsel traditions! WAKE UP!

Christmas is an ABOMINATION. (http://christmascondemned.blogspot.com/)

Your a mean one, Mister Grinch...

Cynic Sage
November 25th 2005, 12:30 AM
You know, David, Jello isn't Biblical. :ahem:

Pilgrim
November 25th 2005, 10:30 AM
You know, David, Jello isn't Biblical. :ahem:
Nor is using the computer and internet as means of communicating ones religious thoughts. I guess David will be giving up his computer soon too eh?

Pilgrim
November 25th 2005, 10:30 AM
Christmas is not an abomination, its just a meaningless pagan holiday. The abomination is the aittitude of people who worship it, while refusing to study its orgin and seek to understand how God feels about pagan things.

Espically if they call themselves followers of God. Controlled ignorance is the abomination.
:lolo:

A Cup of No
November 25th 2005, 10:45 AM
"Christmas is about giving." SAYS WHO? Who started that BIG LIE? Undoubtedly those with something to sell, the modern moneychangers! Look at the folks about you rushing like sheep to the slaughter, to the "sales" and such that they simply CANNOT AFFORD. Going into debt certainly isn't biblical, so why not break free from the trance? The "Christmas" rush is a "drug" pushed by commercial pimps prostituting a supposedly Christian holiday for their ungodly profits! They hold hands around the cash register and sing, "What a friend we have in Jesus."

You are correct to state that Christmas has become extremely commercialized.

"The whole idea of giving gifts has gotten out of hand. First it's not Jesus' birthday.

I think most educated people realize this. Because we cannot pinpoint the correct date of his birth, we celebrate it on the 25th of December. Big deal.

Second the wise men didn't exchange gifts amongst each other but gave their gifts fit for a King to the King of the Jews (two years old and living in a house at that time - which is why Herod slaughtered the children two years and under trying to abort the Messiah's ascension to David's Throne).

Also true, but it's become so much a part of tradition that it doesn't really bother me. Christmas time can also be a time to give gifts to the King (do new year's resolutions ring a bell?). The fact is that at Christmas time, the story of Christ's birth is told, perhaps incorrectly in some details about who was present and all, but it sparks interest in Jesus, which is needed at all times of the year, especially in the US.

"If Christmas is supposed to be about Christ (and some sincerely believe it is, still in denial that it's a pagan holiday God wants no part of), why let Santa steal the show? Why do folks pretend they care that Jesus was born when they deny His life the rest of the year? Why do folks get angry when you mention these facts and they're not even religious? The herd doesn't want their trance broken, so they'll go broke keeping alive pagan festivals and foolishness that will be the death of many.

Better yet, why let the satan steal the show? Your continual affirmation of the paganness of this holiday is ridiculous. No one thinks of it as pagan any longer, so it has lost its paganness. What was originally meant for evil is now meant for God. This is just another example of the Israelites plundering the Egyptians before embarking for the promised land. All days belong to Jesus, not just Christmas, so instead of whining and running away from the holiday, why not embrace it as another day to spread the message of Jesus, especially when it's already a day that people are interested in Jesus' story. Remember, Christ has overcome the world!

""Harmless" Christmas celebrations, abominations to God and rejected by Christ, are setting the stage for our worst nightmare: our family and friends are going to be shipped off like cattle, since our countries are prophesied to suffer national defeat and deportation due to such idolatrous ideas and tinsel traditions! WAKE UP!

Christmas is an ABOMINATION. (http://christmascondemned.blogspot.com)

lol.

John from Ebla
November 26th 2005, 04:41 AM
You are correct to state that Christmas has become extremely commercialized. .

l agree



I think most educated people realize this. Because we cannot pinpoint the correct date of his birth, we celebrate it on the 25th of December. Big deal. .

l agree again- and the world joins in with thier commercialism because santa (The Porduct) made it possible.



Also true, but it's become so much a part of tradition that it doesn't really bother me. Christmas time can also be a time to give gifts to the King (do new year's resolutions ring a bell?). The fact is that at Christmas time, the story of Christ's birth is told, perhaps incorrectly in some details about who was present and all, but it sparks interest in Jesus, which is needed at all times of the year, especially in the US..

Good point. The unbelieving Jew's in the US don't need Jesus and that is why they cry “pagan” My brothers, sister’s and friends of my congregation give gifts and praise the “New born King”- Santa has no part of it.

l personally don’t really care about one day- all days are the same to me and l praise the King of Kings all times. As l Hebrew, l am glad to be free of days and just live- Thanks to my King and Lord.




Better yet, why let the satan steal the show? Your continual affirmation of the paganness of this holiday is ridiculous. No one thinks of it as pagan any longer, so it has lost its paganness. What was originally meant for evil is now meant for God. This is just another example of the Israelites plundering the Egyptians before embarking for the promised land. All days belong to Jesus, not just Christmas, so instead of whining and running away from the holiday, why not embrace it as another day to spread the message of Jesus, especially when it's already a day that people are interested in Jesus' story. Remember, Christ has overcome the world!.

Good point


Kind regards
John From Ebla