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brother vinny
December 14th 2005, 09:11 AM
In a recent debate, Amazing Rando said of VFarris01:


Contradicting yourself yet again? . . . No wonder nobody's taking you seriously.


To which VFarris01 replied:


:lmbo: Again? There has to be a first time before there can be a second time...


Now, this thread might seem like a Locker Room sort of thread, until you realize that I'm not going to say a thing about VFarris that he doesn't already say about himself-- most of what I say will be his quoted words. The reason for this thread is to give a ready reference to his self-contradictions, and if he wishes to explain them, he is certainly free to come forward.

Now, VFarris01's animosity toward the Apostle Paul is certainly well-known enough that I don't have to provide citations of it here, do I? I mean, he refers to Paul as "heretic" (http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showpost.php?p=1291990&postcount=9) and "apostate Jew." (http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showpost.php?p=1297301&postcount=45) So I shouldn't necessarily have to provide quotes here, right?

But was it always this way?

From this post: (http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showpost.php?p=504895&postcount=29)

Paul "refers" to no such thing except in the imagination of the RCC. Paul MUST be referring to the "generations of apostolic succession" in order for RC doctrine to be consistent.

So we see that VFarris01 regarded Paul as authoritative here, and in his post (http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showpost.php?p=504907&postcount=30) immediately following this one, he uses Paul's description of the Church from Ephesians 2:20:


Simply meaning, the Church was founded on the Apostles (JC being the chief cornerstone) not that there is some mythical "unbroken" line of succession.


And in this post (too long to quote), (http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showpost.php?p=508914&postcount=51) VFarris01 says that we have all we need in the 66 books of the Protestant Bible, and cites the book of Romans.

Well, hopefully the self-contradiction between these three examples and what VFarris now espouses is evident, and that the next time he asks to be shown one of his contradictions, one would kindly point him to this thread.

VFarris01
December 14th 2005, 12:54 PM
In a recent debate, Amazing Rando said of VFarris01:Contradicting yourself yet again? . . . No wonder nobody's taking you seriously.To which VFarris01 replied::lmbo: Again? There has to be a first time before there can be a second time...Now, this thread might seem like a Locker Room sort of thread, until you realize that I'm not going to say a thing about VFarris that he doesn't already say about himself-- most of what I say will be his quoted words. The reason for this thread is to give a ready reference to his self-contradictions, and if he wishes to explain them, he is certainly free to come forward.

Now, VFarris01's animosity toward the Apostle Paul is certainly well-known enough that I don't have to provide citations of it here, do I? I mean, he refers to Paul as "heretic" (http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showpost.php?p=1291990&postcount=9) and "apostate Jew." (http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showpost.php?p=1297301&postcount=45) So I shouldn't necessarily have to provide quotes here, right?

But was it always this way?

From this post: (http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showpost.php?p=504895&postcount=29)

Paul "refers" to no such thing except in the imagination of the RCC. Paul MUST be referring to the "generations of apostolic succession" in order for RC doctrine to be consistent.So we see that VFarris01 regarded Paul as authoritative here, and in his post (http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showpost.php?p=504907&postcount=30) immediately following this one, he uses Paul's description of the Church from Ephesians 2:20:Simply meaning, the Church was founded on the Apostles (JC being the chief cornerstone) not that there is some mythical "unbroken" line of succession.And in this post (too long to quote), (http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showpost.php?p=508914&postcount=51) VFarris01 says that we have all we need in the 66 books of the Protestant Bible, and cites the book of Romans.

Well, hopefully the self-contradiction between these three examples and what VFarris now espouses is evident, and that the next time he asks to be shown one of his contradictions, one would kindly point him to this thread.Vinny, Vinny, Vinny...

I suppose it has escaped your narrow field of vision I no longer hold the same theology I held April 5, 2004 and April 8, 2004 (the dates of the quotes you posted). So, yes, it stands to reason what I wrote a year-and-a-half ago (even what I wrote a few months ago) will differ in various ways from what will flow from my keyboard today. Have you noticed I do not post in the "Christians Only" forums anymore (once accidentally)?

About six months ago I came to realize, through my continuing theological studies, the Bible is far from the document it was in its "original" form. Through the errors of copyists, edits changing the original meaning, and forgers the Bible of today bears little in common "theologically" with the "autograph" originals.

So, my friend Vinny, you can throw your little "gotcha" in the same toilet with Rando's.

dizzle
December 14th 2005, 12:59 PM
BV admit it. You miss Freak.

brother vinny
December 14th 2005, 02:16 PM
BV admit it. You miss Freak.
Okay, I admit it.

brother vinny
December 14th 2005, 02:17 PM
Vinny, Vinny, Vinny...

I suppose it has escaped your narrow field of vision I no longer hold the same theology I held April 5, 2004 and April 8, 2004 (the dates of the quotes you posted).

No, it hasn't. But, a contradiction is still a contradiction, apostate.

VFarris01
December 14th 2005, 02:53 PM
Vinny, Vinny, Vinny...

I suppose it has escaped your narrow field of vision I no longer hold the same theology I held April 5, 2004 and April 8, 2004 (the dates of the quotes you posted).No, it hasn't.Your hindsight is 20/20... You are blind to the fact you are following the wrong Gospel.

But, a contradiction is still a contradiction,...... and the Bible is filled with them... unfortunately...

... apostate.Blind fool.

brother vinny
December 14th 2005, 03:02 PM
Your hindsight is 20/20... You are blind to the fact you are following the wrong Gospel.

... and the Bible is filled with them... unfortunately...

Blind fool.

My, my, we are bitter. :rofl:

Widdle monster forgot his Nietzsche, didn't he? Widdle monster should have remembered the danger in fighting big monsters like papism tends to turn one into a monster.

VFarris01
December 14th 2005, 04:05 PM
Your hindsight is 20/20... You are blind to the fact you are following the wrong Gospel.

... and the Bible is filled with them... unfortunately...

Blind fool.My, my, we are bitter.

Widdle monster forgot his Nietzsche, didn't he? Widdle monster should have remembered the danger in fighting big monsters like papism tends to turn one into a monster.:huh:

Did you forgot to take your medication again :yes:.

:idea: Perhaps you should double-up on your next dose and continue to double it every 8 hours.

brother vinny
December 14th 2005, 04:14 PM
:huh:

Did you forgot to take your medication again :yes:.

:idea: Perhaps you should double-up on your next dose and continue to double it every 8 hours.

LOL, that's just so funny! :lmbo:

Golly, VFarris, you should really go into stand-up. I mean, since you flushed your apologetic credibility, you need to find new venues for appreciation of your work, right?

Is that what served to turn you from the faith? Not just bitterness, but rejection among your peers? You know, I'll bet it is. You "fought the good fight" for so long and no one really seemed to care. In fact, more often than not, you were ridiculed.

You poor, poor thing.

dizzle
December 14th 2005, 04:17 PM
Okay, I admit it.

This one just doesn't have the exact, errr, charm

dizzle
December 14th 2005, 04:19 PM
:huh:

Did you forgot to take your medication again :yes:.

:idea: Perhaps you should double-up on your next dose and continue to double it every 8 hours.

I am not a doctor, but I play one on TheologyWeb.

It is really pathetic when you try to mock someone's disabilities or illnesses. Will you please forward to me a picture and your medical chart to see if we have some flaw in you that we may mock?

brother vinny
December 14th 2005, 04:29 PM
This one just doesn't have the exact, errr, charm

I agree. Freak was something else. This one, well. . . just doesn't have panache.

VFarris01
December 14th 2005, 04:42 PM
:huh:

Did you forgot to take your medication again :yes:.

:idea: Perhaps you should double-up on your next dose and continue to double it every 8 hours.LOL, that's just so funny! :lmbo:Tough room... :lol:

Golly, VFarris, you should really go into stand-up. I mean, since you flushed your apologetic credibility, you need to find new venues for appreciation of your work, right?You never thought I had any credibility to begin with... so nothing has changed. Speaking of credibility... you are one of the "elect;" yes? :rofl:

Is that what served to turn you from the faith?Turned? I indeed did turn... toward the faith... you are the one associating with heretics.

Not just bitterness, but rejection among your peers?This sounds familiar... Jesus was rejected early on as I recall.

You know, I'll bet it is. You "fought the good fight" for so long and no one really seemed to care. In fact, more often than not, you were ridiculed.You have a long history of insulting people on Tweb so language such as this from you is meaningless.

You poor, poor thing.Actually, God has blessed me richly... much more than anyone deserves.

VFarris01
December 14th 2005, 04:49 PM
:huh:

Did you forgot to take your medication again :yes:.

:idea: Perhaps you should double-up on your next dose and continue to double it every 8 hours.I am not a doctor, but I play one on TheologyWeb.

It is really pathetic when you try to mock someone's disabilities or illnesses. Will you please forward to me a picture and your medical chart to see if we have some flaw in you that we may mock?Sure... no problem... I am cute and cuddly and my children call me, "Daddy."

Widdle monster forgot his Nietzsche, didn't he? Widdle monster should have remembered the danger in fighting big monsters like papism tends to turn one into a monster.Baby babble is an acceptable weapon... hummm, do I detect a bit of hypocrisy on your part Dee?

brother vinny
December 14th 2005, 05:03 PM
Sure... no problem... I am cute and cuddly and my children call me, "Daddy."

Baby babble is an acceptable weapon... hummm, do I detect a bit of hypocrisy on your part Dee?
Well, I am about done at this here pop stand.

Now all that remains is for VFarris01 to divest himself of the last vestiges of the faith. His avatar looks way too evangelical, and I'd bet the book he's holding contains letters written by Paul. The shiny gold cross icon has to be something of a burden for him-- perhaps he'd like to exchange it for one of the Stars of David we have available. And that signature-- I predict that in 5 years VFarris01 will have more atheist friends than he did Christian friends when he was a believer.

As for me, now knowing VFarris01 is safely confined to Unorthodox Theology, I feel quite safe in closing the World Religions button altogether and bid him adieu. I don't know where he got his crock o' bull, but I have experienced the peace that Paul talks about upon making my desires known to God. I very much doubt VFarris has anything better to offer.

May I never fight gross error so vehemently as to find myself in grosser error.

VFarris01
December 14th 2005, 06:38 PM
Sure... no problem... I am cute and cuddly and my children call me, "Daddy."

Baby babble is an acceptable weapon... hummm, do I detect a bit of hypocrisy on your part Dee?Well, I am about done at this here pop stand.Thank God! Go spew your bile somewhere else.

Now all that remains is for VFarris01 to divest himself of the last vestiges of the faith.The true faith practiced by and taught by Jesus was almost wiped out 1700 years ago... and as recently as 60 years ago... but not quite.

His avatar looks way too evangelical, and I'd bet the book he's holding contains letters written by Paul.Burt was a great actor... and yes, I am looking for an avatar more in agreement with the true religion of Jesus than one of a person representing a charismatic "Christian" evangelist. As I recall Mr. Lancaster's closing line in the movie was (ironically) from Paul...

(11) When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
Thus, as did Elmer Gantry, I put away the "childish thing" of the "Christianity" represented by the "epistles" of Paul.

The shiny gold cross icon has to be something of a burden for him-- perhaps he'd like to exchange it for one of the Stars of David we have available.Judaism (with or without irony) happens to be the faith followed by and taught by Jesus, not the heretical "Christianity" found in the letters of Paul.

And that signature-- I predict that in 5 years VFarris01 will have more atheist friends than he did Christian friends when he was a believer.I never was an atheist... just misled by the heresy of Paul's Christianity.

As for me, now knowing VFarris01 is safely confined to Unorthodox Theology, I feel quite safe in closing the World Religions button altogether and bid him adieu.Then I expect to never see your revolting avatar again above anything addressed to or in reference to me, yes? Why not just strap on a bomb-belt and blow yourself up like the rest of the world's religous zealots... it will certainly make the people of a significant portion of the planet extremely happy.

I don't know where he got his crock o' bull, but I have experienced the peace that Paul talks about upon making my desires known to God. I very much doubt VFarris has anything better to offer.Anything is better than what the letters attributed to Paul have to offer... Had they not been edited to conform to "orthodoxy" they might have presented a different message... pity.

May I never fight gross error so vehemently as to find myself in grosser error.My friend... until you realize the faux pas of the "Christianity" you practice you will always be mired in error.

John from Ebla
December 15th 2005, 04:41 AM
In a recent debate, Amazing Rando said of VFarris01:



To which VFarris01 replied:



Now, this thread might seem like a Locker Room sort of thread, until you realize that I'm not going to say a thing about VFarris that he doesn't already say about himself-- most of what I say will be his quoted words. The reason for this thread is to give a ready reference to his self-contradictions, and if he wishes to explain them, he is certainly free to come forward.

Now, VFarris01's animosity toward the Apostle Paul is certainly well-known enough that I don't have to provide citations of it here, do I? I mean, he refers to Paul as "heretic" (http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showpost.php?p=1291990&postcount=9) and "apostate Jew." (http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showpost.php?p=1297301&postcount=45) So I shouldn't necessarily have to provide quotes here, right?

But was it always this way?

From this post: (http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showpost.php?p=504895&postcount=29)



So we see that VFarris01 regarded Paul as authoritative here, and in his post (http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showpost.php?p=504907&postcount=30) immediately following this one, he uses Paul's description of the Church from Ephesians 2:20:



And in this post (too long to quote), (http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showpost.php?p=508914&postcount=51) VFarris01 says that we have all we need in the 66 books of the Protestant Bible, and cites the book of Romans.

Well, hopefully the self-contradiction between these three examples and what VFarris now espouses is evident, and that the next time he asks to be shown one of his contradictions, one would kindly point him to this thread.

Great Post

l remember reading a book to my little daughter "Miss contrary” and when l read this post it got me wondering-is his real name Mr. contradictive? :lol:

Kind regards
John From Ebla

Sparko
January 2nd 2006, 10:00 PM
Vfarris01 your form of "Christianity" is no value at all. Might as well be an atheist. You reject the bible, the divinity of Christ, the resurrection, all the miracles, Paul, etc. There is nothing left in your world view but some preacher named Jesus who walked around preaching lies about who he was and what he came for and who was followed around by some hanger's on who wrote more lies about him.

What good does it do for you to call yourself "Christian?"

Looks like the "Atheist's Worst Nightmare" is turning into the very thing he claims to have defeated. I think that Atheist would have a good laugh if he could read your posts now.