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David Ben-Ariel
December 21st 2005, 09:45 PM
"Christmas, a Jewish holiday?

However, we all realize that the Christmas season brings to mind thoughts of peace and thoughts of Jesus, the Prince of Peace. It is a time to celebrate the birth of Jesus, the Jewish Messiah, and it's also an incredible time for introducing others to the greatest Jew who ever lived. "

Christmas isn't a Jewish holiday and it's not a Christian holiday: Christmas is a PAGAN HOLIDAY and folks who are IN DENIAL of this fact continue to shamefully misrepresent the real Jesus and true Christianity to the world. The biblical God rejects all their religious whitewash and condemns their Catholic "mass of Christ" as an ABOMINATION. Those who honestly follow the Truth acknowledge this fact and avoid such baptized paganism like the Babylonian plague!

Christmas is an abomination (http://christmascondemned.blogspot.com)

Hitch
December 22nd 2005, 12:06 AM
"Christmas, a Jewish holiday?

However, we all realize that the Christmas season brings to mind thoughts of peace and thoughts of Jesus, the Prince of Peace. It is a time to celebrate the birth of Jesus, the Jewish Messiah, and it's also an incredible time for introducing others to the greatest Jew who ever lived. "

Christmas isn't a Jewish holiday and it's not a Christian holiday: Christmas is a PAGAN HOLIDAY and folks who are IN DENIAL of this fact continue to shamefully misrepresent the real Jesus and true Christianity to the world. The biblical God rejects all their religious whitewash and condemns their Catholic "mass of Christ" as an ABOMINATION. Those who honestly follow the Truth acknowledge this fact and avoid such baptized paganism like the Babylonian plague!

Christmas is an abomination (http://christmascondemned.blogspot.com) People who think they will become 'God-Beings' are an abomination.

John from Ebla
December 22nd 2005, 04:10 AM
"Christmas, a Jewish holiday?

However, we all realize that the Christmas season brings to mind thoughts of peace and thoughts of Jesus, the Prince of Peace. It is a time to celebrate the birth of Jesus, the Jewish Messiah, and it's also an incredible time for introducing others to the greatest Jew who ever lived. "

Christmas isn't a Jewish holiday and it's not a Christian holiday: Christmas is a PAGAN HOLIDAY and folks who are IN DENIAL of this fact continue to shamefully misrepresent the real Jesus and true Christianity to the world. The biblical God rejects all their religious whitewash and condemns their Catholic "mass of Christ" as an ABOMINATION. Those who honestly follow the Truth acknowledge this fact and avoid such baptized paganism like the Babylonian plague!

Christmas is an abomination (http://christmascondemned.blogspot.com)


So why do you observe it? Are you calling yourself a pagan- do you know what Jewish feast start on the 25 Dec?

Kind regards
John From Ebla

kaine diatheke
December 23rd 2005, 10:30 PM
"Christmas, a Jewish holiday?

However, we all realize that the Christmas season brings to mind thoughts of peace and thoughts of Jesus, the Prince of Peace. It is a time to celebrate the birth of Jesus, the Jewish Messiah, and it's also an incredible time for introducing others to the greatest Jew who ever lived. "

Christmas isn't a Jewish holiday and it's not a Christian holiday: Christmas is a PAGAN HOLIDAY and folks who are IN DENIAL of this fact continue to shamefully misrepresent the real Jesus and true Christianity to the world. The biblical God rejects all their religious whitewash and condemns their Catholic "mass of Christ" as an ABOMINATION. Those who honestly follow the Truth acknowledge this fact and avoid such baptized paganism like the Babylonian plague!

Christmas is an abomination (http://christmascondemned.blogspot.com)


I must admit I've heard this argument before. That it is sin for Christians to celebrate Christmas and Easter because of their pagan origins. In fact earlier this month I was thinking about it in regards to Christmas. However, there are some scriptural principles that speak to issues very similar to this.

In 1 Corinthians 8, Paul takes up the issue of whether or not gentile (and Jewish Christians by extension) Christians are allowed to eat meat that was sacrificed to idols. I believe it can speak to the issue of celebrating Christmas (and Easter) also.

"Now concerning things offered to idols: We know that we all have knowledge. Knowledge puffs up, but love edifies. And if anyone thinks that he knows anything, he knows notheing yet as he ought to know. But if anyone loves God, this one is known by Him. Therefore concerning the eating of things offered to idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that there is no other God but one.

"For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as there are many gods and many lords), yet for us there is one God, the Father, of whom are al things, and we for Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and through whom we live.

"However, there is not in everyone that knowledge; for some, with consciousness of the idol, until now eat it as a thing offered to an idol; and their conscience, being weak, is defiled." 1 Corinthians 8:1-7 NKJV

I am under no illusions that Christmas (or more precisely December 25) was originally a pagan festival, but Paul makes it clear that an idol is nothing in the world and there is no God but one. If one chooses not to observe Christmas, that is no sin. It is one's own Christian prerogative. However, one does not sin in observing Christmas either, and it is certainly a noble thing to celebrate the birth of Jesus regardless of the date on which one does it, and there is certainly nothing pagan about the carols sung on Christmas, or eggnog, or exchanging gifts, etc...

Merry Christmas
Kaine Diatheke

Piebald
December 24th 2005, 12:27 AM
folks who are IN DENIAL


Says the European-descended guy who goes through elaborate gymnastics to turn European-Americans into the Lost Tribes of Israel :ahem:.

As for your argument, it's just more of the usual. It attempts to say that "Christmas is wrong because Christmas is this behavior" -- when everyone celebrates Christmas differently. To say that Christmas has been "sterilized" of its Christian roots certainly doesn't hold true for lots of Christians I know who happily celebrate the birth of the Lord with nativity scenes and songs about His birth.

As for "It has its origins in paganism!" -- so do lots of concepts in the New Testament. So what? Just like the concepts of Hades, Tartarus, and Python were filled with new meaning for a Christian context, so was Christmas.

"It isn't in the Bible" -- yeah, lots of things aren't. The Internet, for one.

JSDileo
December 24th 2005, 12:44 AM
"Christmas, a Jewish holiday?

However, we all realize that the Christmas season brings to mind thoughts of peace and thoughts of Jesus, the Prince of Peace. It is a time to celebrate the birth of Jesus, the Jewish Messiah, and it's also an incredible time for introducing others to the greatest Jew who ever lived. "

Christmas isn't a Jewish holiday and it's not a Christian holiday: Christmas is a PAGAN HOLIDAY and folks who are IN DENIAL of this fact continue to shamefully misrepresent the real Jesus and true Christianity to the world. The biblical God rejects all their religious whitewash and condemns their Catholic "mass of Christ" as an ABOMINATION. Those who honestly follow the Truth acknowledge this fact and avoid such baptized paganism like the Babylonian plague!

Christmas is an abomination (http://christmascondemned.blogspot.com)

In my honest opinion, I have to say that people like you are paranoid.

gooner
December 24th 2005, 01:03 PM
In my honest opinion, I have to say that people like you are paranoid.

Im just blown away by the truely deep insights of this thread....Christmas ..Pagan?That has totally changed my whole outlook.....in fact Im going to book the next available flight to Jerusalem in time for Hannukah. :lol:

oh no ..too late ..the kids stockings are already made up :eek:

Hitch
December 24th 2005, 03:50 PM
In my honest opinion, I have to say that people like you are paranoid.Nahhh Dave's a real head case

Hitch
December 24th 2005, 03:51 PM
Im just blown away by the truely deep insights of this thread....Christmas ..Pagan?That has totally changed my whole outlook.....in fact Im going to book the next available flight to Jerusalem in time for Hannukah. :lol:

oh no ..too late ..the kids stockings are already made up :eek:Oh Mozzeltoff Tree

oh mozzeltoff tree

technomage
December 24th 2005, 03:53 PM
Christmas isn't a Jewish holiday....

What do you care? You're not Jewish either.