Since His Name is Yahweh.

[Okieshowedem]

And no Jew will use that Name, will He hear their prayers?


Okieshowedem

[Timothy Leary]

Your question is based on a false premise, a grossly incorrect pronunciation of yud-heh-vav-heh

[Okieshowedem]

So sorry my friend

That information came from Chumash with Targum Onkelos, Haphteroth, and Rashi's Commentary, Volume Bamidbar, Page 31.

A commentary on the Priestly Blessing in Numbers 6:22-27.

Okieshowedem

[Okieshowedem]

Say yoshiyahu

Why the handle since it means "Foundation of Yahweh?"


Okieshowedem

[Timothy Leary]

So sorry my friend

That information came from Chumash with Targum Onkelos, Haphteroth, and Rashi's Commentary, Volume Bamidbar, Page 31.

A commentary on the Priestly Blessing in Numbers 6:22-27.

Okieshowedem

:rofl:

Rashi - pronouncing the name as "Yahweh"?! He'd view it as a sin to even try to pronounce it!

Come on now

[Timothy Leary]

Why the handle since it means "Foundation of Yahweh?"

My name contains the word aish, which means "fire" - not "foundation"

[Okieshowedem]

Rashi's understanding was not clouded by the silly traditons of men.
Please, show me just one Law in the Torah that says we are not to use the proper Name of Father Yahweh.
We both know you can not.


Okieshowedem

[alam]

And no Jew will use that Name, will He hear their prayers?


Okieshowedem


I don't see why not. The Lord's Prayer doesn't use the Tetragrammaton, but God knew Jesus was talking to Him and not to Gabriel or one of the other guys up there.

[Timothy Leary]

Rashi's understanding was not clouded by the silly traditons of men.
Please, show me just one Law in the Torah that says we are not to use the proper Name of Father Yahweh.
We both know you can not.

Quote him. He would never approve of the pronunciation of the name. He was an Orthodox Jewish Rabbi for crying out loud! I've read his entire commentary on the Torah, and I've never seen a single ioata of an indication that he strayed from the commonly accepted tradition within Orthodox Judaism.

[kiwimac]

Quote him. He would never approve of the pronunciation of the name. He was an Orthodox Jewish Rabbi for crying out loud! I've read his entire commentary on the Torah, and I've never seen a single ioata of an indication that he strayed from the commonly accepted tradition within Orthodox Judaism.
Actually, I would argue that the name we use to address God is unimportant (cf. Paul on Mar's Hill) what is important is that we intend relationship with God.

[Timothy Leary]

I agree with you, Kiwi.

It's not this guys beliefs, per se, which annoy me. It's his blatant dishonesty. It'd be almost like me referring to quotes of Jesus to "prove" that there isn't a god. It's that deceptive.

[Okieshowedem]

There is NO DECEPTION on my part!
His Name is YAHWEH!
Always has been, always will be.
Use it and live deny it and DIE, as always the choice is yours to make.
As for me and my house we will serve Father YAHWEH!

Okieshowedem

[Timothy Leary]

Yes. You have been deceptive. You have lied. Rashi never once claimed that God's name was "Yahweh". Let me say it again. You lied.

Yahweh is a grossly incorrect pronounciation. A Karaite friend of mine, Yohanan, once wrote the following (which was later, by permission, printed in the newsletter printed by the Shomeri/Samaritan community)

Many scholars claim that the pronunciation of
the Divine Name as "Yahweh" is accurate due to
Samaritan inscriptions written in Greek which write
the Divine Name as "Yabe." The Samaritans in most
instances pronounce beth, veth, waw, pe and fe as a
"b". But what these scholars fell to realize is that
the Samaritans like the Rabbinates subsituted a the
Name with another word when they came accross the Name
written in the Torah. The Samaritans unlike the
Rabbinates did not read Adhonai when they came accross
the Divine Name, but "yabe" or innon-Samaritan
pronunciation "yafe" (Beautiful). Therefore the
pronunciation of the divine name as Yahweh is
inaccurate based upon the Samaritan/Kushaniyya desire
'not' to pronounce the divine name.

[freelight]

And no Jew will use that Name, will He hear their prayers?


Okieshowedem


Hi Okie,

I am somewhat familiar with the House of Yahweh, used to get their calendar...was on their mailing list. The organization has some good research material...but most is used to support their own doctrinal-perspectives, naturally. I remember Yisrayl Hawkins being on cable access.

About the presumption that God only hears prayers using the name 'Yahweh' - this is nonsense - while it is great to know the divine Name and various names of Deity.....all those pure in heart see 'God' and all who pray according to divine Will are heard. All things/beings live, move and have their existence in the One God and can no sooner be apart from Him as a drop of water can be seperate from the Ocean. He is near all who call upon Him...and one does not need to know a definitive formal Name of 'God' to summon his grace...although such is helpful. God works with each soul according to their knowledge at any given time.

Consider the One I AM....the All-pervading God-Presence. This is the Truth that is Being. This I AM is our very IDentity. The One True Self. This is the name (IDentity) that is to be known for all generations, for all time...because it is the very Seat/ground/origin/reality of Existence.....of Self-Consciousness.

just a little for you to nibble on...........

In the Light of Yah :smile:



paul

[Okieshowedem]

Hi freelight

Be glad you know about The Great House Of Yahweh, very soon the whole world will be here..;o)
So say the prophets.
Anyway If what you believe about Father Yahweh's Name is true then, YAHWEH LIED!
We can't have it both way.
If you know that He has a proper Name ( as you can see even in your KJV in Ps.68:4 ) and refuse to use it, then you are not a real believer in the Holy Scriptures.
You may want to read what Yahshua said about His Father's Name in Yahchanan ( John ) 14 and 17.
Think about it.

Okieshowedem

[Timothy Leary]

By what evidence, if any, do you believe that the correct pronunciation of yud heh vav heh is "yahweh"? Why not another pronunciation?

[Okieshowedem]

yoshiyahu

One thing for sure the tetragrammaton does not spell lord or god or any of the other things and name people use to speak of Father Yahweh!

Let me ask you, have you spent any time researching this or are you like I was and just repeating what other people sais and you heard or read?

I would be glad to share the information I have about how we can know for sure His Name is Yahweh if you truly want to know.

May I also ask do you think Mosheh knew His Name?


Okisehowedem

[Timothy Leary]

I speak and read hebrew. Does that count?

[LambofElohim]

Greetings,

REMBETHEH YEHYEH THEH KENTHEMEH!

YeHeVeH is NOT! NOT!! NOT!!! NOT!!!! the name of Elohim! You show me the words, "and God said my name is YHVH"! You will not find them, but you will find the words, "and Elohim said, "I am Elohim; even the Elohim of thy forefathers"." You also see the words, "Elohim spake these words, "I am YHVH thy Elohim thou shalt have no ther elohim before me. The True meaning of this comes only with the proper translation of the Tetragrammaton which is "he who wants to become". Man's worshiping of YeHeVeH as their elohim left Elohim wanting to become their Elohim. Exodus 20 is Elohim giving Israel over to worship YeHeVeH as their elohim as the "armies of heaven" or "host of heaven" spoken of by Stephen.

Oh what a lot man has to learn about "God", "the LORD God", "Jesus Christ", Lucifer, Satan, angels and demons!

The Brother of the Jesus Christ that the only true God hast sent
Reverend Carlton

[sonofyah]

:rofl:

Rashi - pronouncing the name as "Yahweh"?! He'd view it as a sin to even try to pronounce it!

Come on now

This you cannot not prove!