Saddest thing, the Scriptures warned us to stay away from all Churches.

[Okieshowedem]

When the vale is lifted and we are given eyes to see.
We understand that Father Yahweh nor His Messiah would not have nothing to do with any Church.
When we study to show ourselves approved we too will stop going to these evil places.



Okieshowedem

[Timothy Leary]

Please refer me to the scripture that says we're to avoid any Church.

[Okieshowedem]

Sure yoshiYAHu

Deut.12:5.


Okishowedem

[One Bad Pig]

:hrm:

But you must seek only the place he chooses from all your tribes to establish his name as his place of residence, and you must go there.

Even if this verse applied to the New Covenant, it would simply mean that the only legitimate Church would meet in Jerusalem.

Also, keep in mind:

And let us take thought of how to spur one another on to love and good works, not abandoning our own meetings, as some are in the habit of doing, but encouraging each other, and even more so because you se the day drawing near.

[Okieshowedem]

Pig you may want to find out where the word church came from.



Okieshowedem

[One Bad Pig]

Pig you may want to find out where the word church came from.
Okieshowedem
I know where the word church came from. Do you know where the word temple (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple) came from? Better stay away from those, too - even the one in Jerusalem should it ever be rebuilt. Maybe cathedrals (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathedral) are safe?

(the words "temple" and "cathedrals" above are links, btw)

[Okieshowedem]

Come to think about it the word church is accociated with pigs..;O)

You have a herd of cattle, and flock of sheep, and a church of swine.

Is this the place your thinking of pig?

Okie

[Pilgrim]

When the vale is lifted and we are given eyes to see.
We understand that Father Yahweh nor His Messiah would not have nothing to do with any Church.
When we study to show ourselves approved we too will stop going to these evil places.



Okieshowedem

Yes I agree. They would NOT have NOTHING (sic) to do with any church. In other words, they would have something to do with them. Thanks for pointing that out. Astounding. I'm totally amazed. Wow.

[KarmaGhost]

Pig you may want to find out where the word church came from.

Okieshowedem

Church, from Greek kyriakos "of the Lord", from Greek kyrie "Lord", noun: "the earthly entity, often in buildings, of a group of peole belonging to a given religion, especially Christianity" (wherein, Jesus is "Lord", kyrie-->kyriakos-->church)

Bite me.

[Timothy Leary]

The word 'church' comes from the greek word ekklesia, which means 'assembly' or 'congregation'. In that sense, an anti-war protest could be considered a 'church'. It's also used quite often in the NT.

So now, how does Devarim 12 warn us against churches? The only way I can see a case being made using that scripture would be to say that we're commanded against going to heretical churches, but how you could use it against all churches??

[KarmaGhost]

The word 'church' comes from the greek word ekklesia, which means 'assembly' or 'congregation'. In that sense, an anti-war protest could be considered a 'church'. It's also used quite often in the NT.

Uh, no.

Origin: bef. 900; ME chir(i)che, OE cir(i)ce ≪ Gk kȳri(a)kón (dôma) the Lord's (house), neut. of kȳriakós of the master, equiv. to kȳ́ri(os) master (kŷr(os) power + -ios n. suffix) + -akos, var. of -ikos -ic; akin to D kerk, G Kirche, ON kirkja. See kirk

[One Bad Pig]

Come to think about it the word church is accociated with pigs..;O)

You have a herd of cattle, and flock of sheep, and a church of swine.

Is this the place your thinking of pig?

Okie

There's a church of Swine in East Yorkshire. What do you have against that church? Otherwise, I think you're indulging in procto-etymology.

[Red Wine]

Aside from any obvious offense Okie I can't find anything in the texts associating churches with swine; however there is some reference to dogs with an appetite for vomit, perhaps this is what you meant? Would that be a 'pack'? ;)

[Okieshowedem]

yoshiyahu

Deut.12:5 gives instruction on a single place.
The other prophets tell when and where this place will be in the Last Days.
It is not a church.
If it were WHICH ONE?
No ,my friend it is the Great Rock of Able.
Just as it has always been.


Okieshowedem

[Timothy Leary]

Are you saying that you believe that God doesn't want you to have religous meetings and assemblies? That is all a church is.

[KarmaGhost]

yoshiyahu

Deut.12:5 gives instruction on a single place.
The other prophets tell when and where this place will be in the Last Days.
It is not a church.
If it were WHICH ONE?
No ,my friend it is the Great Rock of Able.
Just as it has always been.


Okieshowedem

Church is not the same thing as "building full of religious adherents." Church is a broad noun encompassing the believers of an individual faith...