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Okieshowedem
January 27th 2007, 07:39 PM
However you put it, this thought is a total abomination in light of the Torah.
I remember a preacher tell me that if you discredit the virgin birth you will destroy Christianity.
How many guys would let any God have sex with his wife to be? I know I would not!


Okie
Spinyn00bman
January 27th 2007, 07:41 PM
However you put it, this thought is a total abomination in light of the Torah.
I remember a preacher tell me that if you discredit the virgin birth you will destroy Christianity.
How many guys would let any God have sex with his wife to be? I know I would not!


Okie


I have read a lot on knucklebrained, moronic things in my years here but this has to take the cake.

When did God "have sex" with Mary?

This must be in jest. It can't be a serious question.

Thanks for making me laugh.
dizzle
January 27th 2007, 07:48 PM
I have read a lot on knucklebrained, moronic things in my years here but this has to take the cake.

When did God "have sex" with Mary?

This must be in jest. It can't be a serious question.

Thanks for making me laugh.

The dude is a fruit loop. Completely.
James Peter
January 27th 2007, 11:04 PM
For once I agree with Xena.
Okieshowedem
January 31st 2007, 05:02 PM
Who knows fot you guys that think this is ok, maybe one day your wife can have a little God...;o)

Okie
KarmaGhost
January 31st 2007, 05:08 PM
Who knows fot you guys that think this is ok, maybe one day your wife can have a little God...;o)

Okie

Unlikely, considering there is only one God, the Trinity of Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Mary didn't have a "little God." She had the Word made flesh (John 1).

Moreover, let us say Jesus wasn't of a virgin birth, but was conceived in some sort of spirit-sex in the fashion of Mormonism (total nonsense, but whatever). You ask: "would you allow any God to have sex with your wife to be?" Now, call me crazy, but I really don't see my will as having the authority to overrule God's supreme sovereignty. Who cares what I would allow? I would just as soon not allow God to lay down the law of "thou shalt not lust," because that sin is easy and there are plenty of beautiful women out there. Thankfully, God really doesn't need my approval to do anything.

Crawl back into your hole.
Timothy Leary
January 31st 2007, 06:04 PM
However you put it, this thought is a total abomination in light of the Torah.
I remember a preacher tell me that if you discredit the virgin birth you will destroy Christianity.
How many guys would let any God have sex with his wife to be? I know I would not!

No form of (orthodox) Christianity teaches that God had literal sex with Mary. The only people who hold to such a position - correct me if i'm wrong - are fundamentalist mormons.

Don't get me wrong. The virgin birth, IMO, is not scripturally supported by either the Tanach, LLX, or the Christian scriptures.

But let's not misrepresent a person's theology. It's dishonest.
KarmaGhost
January 31st 2007, 06:09 PM
The virgin birth, IMO, is not scripturally supported by either the Tanach, LLX, or the Christian scriptures.

Really? What of the (what most Christians take to be) Messianic Prophecy of Isaiah 7? "And the virgin will be with child." What of Matthew and Luke, which attest to Christ being born of a Virgin, Matthew specifically citing the aforementioned Isaiah 7 in Matt 1:23?
Timothy Leary
January 31st 2007, 06:31 PM
Really? What of the (what most Christians take to be) Messianic Prophecy of Isaiah 7? "And the virgin will be with child." What of Matthew and Luke, which attest to Christ being born of a Virgin, Matthew specifically citing the aforementioned Isaiah 7 in Matt 1:23?

I'd rather not derail this thread. If you'd like to start another thread I'll gladly answer your questions there.
Okieshowedem
January 31st 2007, 07:39 PM
Should the Messiah be the Mighty One as this religions states, how can the Creator be tempted as the Scriptures state that the Messiah was tempted?


Okieshowedem
KarmaGhost
January 31st 2007, 07:42 PM
Should the Messiah be the Mighty One as this religions states, how can the Creator be tempted as the Scriptures state that the Messiah was tempted?


Okieshowedem

Jesus, in orthodox Xianity=100% God and 100% man. A man can be tempted, therefore Jesus could be tempted. It's quite simple, really...
Okieshowedem
January 31st 2007, 07:53 PM
So, Ghost

What % of the God in Jesus failed?


Okieshowedem
KarmaGhost
January 31st 2007, 07:58 PM
So, Ghost

What % of the God in Jesus failed?


Okieshowedem

None. That's why he was able to resist the temptation. He had this crazy thing called divine power on his side. :ahem:
Okieshowedem
January 31st 2007, 08:55 PM
Ghost

I agree with you in that , that is one crazy thing...;o)

The Messiah was not part God or whole God.

As a matter of fact the Messiah warned you to flee from God.

His Father's Name is and always has been Yahweh.

And Father Yahweh is not a God!


Okieshowedem
Shadow Phoenix
January 31st 2007, 08:59 PM
However you put it, this thought is a total abomination in light of the Torah.
I remember a preacher tell me that if you discredit the virgin birth you will destroy Christianity.
How many guys would let any God have sex with his wife to be? I know I would not!


Okie

I know you'll be massacred, but if you're this sure of the nonsense you're putting out that Christianity is pagan and other such nonsense, I'd be glad to face you in the wrestling ring.
KarmaGhost
February 1st 2007, 03:46 AM
Ghost

I agree with you in that , that is one crazy thing...;o)

The Messiah was not part God or whole God.

As a matter of fact the Messiah warned you to flee from God.

His Father's Name is and always has been Yahweh.

And Father Yahweh is not a God!


Okieshowedem

Are you clinically insane? Yahweh is derived from the Hebrew YHVH, which many scholars read and continue to read as "I AM" in Exodus. The scene went something like this:

YHVH: Take off your shoes.
Moses: Who are you, strange disembodied voice in a burning bush?
YHVH: I am the God of your Fathers, Abraham, Jacob and Isaac.
Moses: Um, okay, and what do you want me to do?
YHVH: Go down, Moses, and tell old Pharaoh to let my people go.
Moses: I'm not so good at this...
YHVH: I'll be with you.
Moses: And who, pray tell, should I tell the Jews is with me?
YHVH: I AM.
Moses: Okey-dokey.

In other words: The God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob...was/is YHVH-->Yahweh.
Bernie
February 1st 2007, 11:04 AM
I remember a preacher tell me that if you discredit the virgin birth you will destroy Christianity.
I think this part of the quote is accurate, anyway, as long as it's understood that the destruction is actually applied only to wolves within the fold and not Christianity (meaning those who are "true" believers in God's eyes) itself. Christ would never let the message of the gospel sucuumb to ruin, despte the fallenness of particular men.