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Theostudent
July 25th 2007, 10:38 PM
Deutoronomy 12:23
23 Only be sure that you do not eat the blood, for the blood is the life, and you shall not eat the life with the flesh.
I find this verse interesting, in that the jews do not see the correlation to what the Lord was teaching, that the Blood of Jesus is the true life as when jesus said.
John 6:55 (Show me John 6)
For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink.
Do they not see that Joshua bright the true drink and life in his blood?
Theostudent
July 25th 2007, 10:41 PM
When I drink the wine, that represents jesus blood, i drink quite a bit, and it makes me have holy thoughts of God, it is by far my most favorite sacrement that the Lord gave us, drinking his Blood is my favorite thing to do while i contemplate about my heavenly Father, sometimes i drink alot of his blood, it really makes me feel good.
What is your favorite sacrement?
furay
July 25th 2007, 11:43 PM
When I drink the wine, that represents jesus blood, i drink quite a bit, and it makes me have holy thoughts of God, it is by far my most favorite sacrement that the Lord gave us, drinking his Blood is my favorite thing to do while i contemplate about my heavenly Father, sometimes i drink alot of his blood, it really makes me feel good.
What is your favorite sacrement?
Is it the Lord's blood or not? You are contradicting yourself.
Theostudent
July 25th 2007, 11:47 PM
it is both the wine and the Blood, as such is jesus the son of man and the son of God.
so if i contradict my self, does Jesus contradict himself?
furay
July 26th 2007, 12:05 AM
it is both the wine and the Blood, as such is jesus the son of man and the son of God.
so if i contradict my self, does Jesus contradict himself?
You're a Lutheran, then?
Theostudent
July 26th 2007, 12:21 AM
I do not claim any sect or organization, only that my Master is the Lord Jesus Christ and my Father is God.
furay
July 26th 2007, 12:25 AM
I do not claim any sect or organization, only that my Master is the Lord Jesus Christ and my Father is God.
Where do you receive this "sacrement", then?
Michael T.
July 26th 2007, 12:35 AM
Theostudent,
The wine of the Lord’s Supper is representative; i.e. symbolic of Christ’s blood.
The Roman-catholic theory – and it has never been more than that; a theory – that the wine in the Lord’s Supper is the literal actual blood of Jesus Christ of Nazareth – is pretentious, imaginative, and absurd, and this, together with its associated superstition; the illusion of so-called “transubstantiation,” are gross examples of the numerous superstitions so dear to the deluded minds and hearts of gullible and easily-hoodwinked people who fill the pews of the roman-catholic religious cult-system.
Michael T.
July 26th 2007, 12:39 AM
Theostudent,
The wine of the Lord’s Supper is representative; i.e. symbolic of Christ’s blood.
The Roman-catholic theory – and it has never been more than that; a theory – that the wine in the Lord’s Supper is the literal actual blood of Jesus Christ of Nazareth – is pretentious, imaginative, and absurd, and this, together with its associated superstition; the illusion of so-called “transubstantiation,” are gross examples of the numerous superstitions so dear to the deluded minds and hearts of gullible and easily hood-winked people who fill the pews of the roman-catholic religious cult-system.
Theostudent
July 26th 2007, 12:41 AM
Where do you receive this "sacrement", then?
in the innermost chamber of my soul, and in my mouth, where i drink the wine into my stomach, and my mouth where i drink the wine into my soul.
Theostudent
July 26th 2007, 12:43 AM
Theostudent,
The wine of the Lord’s Supper is representative; i.e. symbolic of Christ’s blood.
The Roman-catholic theory – and it has never been more than that; a theory – that the wine in the Lord’s Supper is the literal actual blood of Jesus Christ of Nazareth – is pretentious, imaginative, and absurd, and this, together with its associated superstition; the illusion of so-called “transubstantiation,” are gross examples of the numerous superstitions so dear to the deluded minds and hearts of gullible and easily hood-winked people who fill the pews of the roman-catholic religious cult-system.
the wine is what the lord makes of it for his servents, for me, it is his life giving blood that i drink in remembrance of him, it is a most holy sacrement for me to drink my lords blood, his blood is quite delicious to the soul and to the stomach.
Theostudent
July 26th 2007, 12:44 AM
Theostudent,
The wine of the Lord’s Supper is representative; i.e. symbolic of Christ’s blood.
The Roman-catholic theory – and it has never been more than that; a theory – that the wine in the Lord’s Supper is the literal actual blood of Jesus Christ of Nazareth – is pretentious, imaginative, and absurd, and this, together with its associated superstition; the illusion of so-called “transubstantiation,” are gross examples of the numerous superstitions so dear to the deluded minds and hearts of gullible and easily-hoodwinked people who fill the pews of the roman-catholic religious cult-system.
your comment is merely a concoction of your mind, with no spiritual value, you are a whitewashed tomb.
furay
July 26th 2007, 12:45 AM
in the innermost chamber of my soul, and in my mouth, where i drink the wine into my stomach, and my mouth where i drink the wine into my soul.
No, I mean where does it come from? Do you just take a swig from a bottle of Port and pretend it's the Lord's Blood or do you go to a church and receive it?
Theostudent
July 26th 2007, 07:37 AM
No, I mean where does it come from? Do you just take a swig from a bottle of Port and pretend it's the Lord's Blood or do you go to a church and receive it?
I dont "pretend" it is my lords blood, it is my lords blood, and i take it wherever i may be, in church is only one place i take the sacrement, any church that i happen to be in, but mostly i do this holy sacrement at home, whilst i sit and contemplate my Lord and his majesty and mystery.
rstrats
July 26th 2007, 08:28 AM
Theostudent,
re: “I don’t ‘pretend’ it is my lords blood, it is my lords blood, and I take it wherever I may be...”
And yet the writer of Acts 15:20 says to abstain from blood.
mossrose
July 26th 2007, 11:51 AM
I dont "pretend" it is my lords blood, it is my lords blood, and i take it wherever i may be, in church is only one place i take the sacrement, any church that i happen to be in, but mostly i do this holy sacrement at home, whilst i sit and contemplate my Lord and his majesty and mystery.
So, just how much of the "Lord's blood" do you drink at one sitting?
Theostudent
July 26th 2007, 05:24 PM
Theostudent,
re: “I don’t ‘pretend’ it is my lords blood, it is my lords blood, and I take it wherever I may be...”
And yet the writer of Acts 15:20 says to abstain from blood.
well i listen to my lord who speaks in sucha manner.
John 6:53 (Show me John 6)
So Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you.
John 6:54 (Show me John 6)
Whoever feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.
John 6:55 (Show me John 6)
For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink.
John 6:56 (Show me John 6)
Whoever feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me, and I in him.
I follow the words of my master for his words will nevar pass away, the words of the writer of acts will pass away.
Whos words do you follow if I might ask?
Theostudent
July 26th 2007, 05:25 PM
So, just how much of the "Lord's blood" do you drink at one sitting?
As much as my Lord allows.
mastralvarado
July 26th 2007, 05:34 PM
What good is the feast of tabernacles when there is hunger and thirst in poor countries?
mossrose
July 26th 2007, 05:49 PM
As much as my Lord allows.
Like, a couple of bottles?
Do you share with others in your family, or your friends, or do you drink alone?
Theostudent
July 26th 2007, 05:55 PM
What good is the feast of tabernacles when there is hunger and thirst in poor countries?
Isaiah 49:10 (Show me Isaiah 49)
they shall not hunger or thirst, neither scorching wind nor sun shall strike them, for he who has pity on them will lead them, and by springs of water will guide them.
Matthew 5:6 (Show me Matthew 5)
“Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they shall be satisfied.
John 6:35 (Show me John 6)
Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life; whoever comes to me shall not hunger, and whoever believes in me shall never thirst.
Matthew 5:3 (Show me Matthew 5)
“Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
which hungry and poor are you reffering to? The Poor and Hungry will be satisfied and have the kingdom of heaven.
Explain the Feast of Booths to me, or so called Feast of Tabernacles, what meanin do you give to this feast, I follow the Words of my Master, and he says to Drink the Blood, where the Life is.
Theostudent
July 26th 2007, 05:57 PM
Like, a couple of bottles?
Do you share with others in your family, or your friends, or do you drink alone?
It is not my Blood to Share, all can consume the Blood of Christ, I drink the Blood with others and alone, whomever is around to drink in the life i will drink with, I do not have a set amount that I consume of my Lords Blood, as much as my Lord allows me at any certain time.
mossrose
July 26th 2007, 06:05 PM
It is not my Blood to Share, all can consume the Blood of Christ, I drink the Blood with others and alone, whomever is around to drink in the life i will drink with, I do not have a set amount that I consume of my Lords Blood, as much as my Lord allows me at any certain time.
And how happy are you when you have finished polishing off a few containers of the "Lord's blood"?
mastralvarado
July 26th 2007, 06:06 PM
you follow the words of your master literally by drinking his blood you are making the inheritance to be of this world by doing the ritual you do in mass. The feast of tabernacles to me seems the sharing of the Word in its intended meaning and in unity by every religion.
I am referring to the people who now, this moment have nothing to eat. Us muslims honor them if we can by paying Zakat (charity) and also by keeping one of the four sacred months of the year (Ramadan/September) in fasting. I have no problem with the eating of the blood, everybody to some extent eats blood by feasting on animals. Why would the "drink my blood" be literal is my concern.
Theostudent
July 26th 2007, 06:48 PM
And how happy are you when you have finished polishing off a few containers of the "Lord's blood"?
i am happy beforehand, and afterhand, the lords blood makes my contemplation of him very deep, i love my lord for giving us such a blessed sacrement.
mastralvarado
July 26th 2007, 07:05 PM
i am happy beforehand, and afterhand, the lords blood makes my contemplation of him very deep, i love my lord for giving us such a blessed sacrement.
Well, you certainly picked the correct section for the unorthodoxy of you malignant practice.:lol:
Theostudent
July 26th 2007, 07:13 PM
you follow the words of your master literally by drinking his blood you are making the inheritance to be of this world by doing the ritual you do in mass. The feast of tabernacles to me seems the sharing of the Word in its intended meaning and in unity by every religion.
I am referring to the people who now, this moment have nothing to eat. Us muslims honor them if we can by paying Zakat (charity) and also by keeping one of the four sacred months of the year (Ramadan/September) in fasting. I have no problem with the eating of the blood, everybody to some extent eats blood by feasting on animals. Why would the "drink my blood" be literal is my concern.
It is not a ritual, the blood is the life of my Master, if i do not drink of his blood, i have no life in me, Their already is unity in all religions, but human ignorance denies us this peace, the believers would live in unity, but the people in whos hearts is a disease take away this fact from us.
I also give one tenth of my salary as the Lord so commands, Drinking my Masters Blood is also commanded and is very spiritual, literally? what do you mean, the annalogy of wine and blood is true and right, I drink the wine, which is the blood of my Lord, in it is life, both in this world and the hereafter.
edited to add back-to-back posts-
actually , those who do not followmy masters teaching moved this thread from theology 201, they do not follow the drinking of the Lords blood, it must disgust them in some manner, they have been led astray by the prince of the power of the Air, who rules this world, but I know that I am not from this world and the prince of darkness has no powoer over me.
And to to make it known, I drink my Lords Blood with him in our Fathers Kingdom.
Do not post back to back, and do not dispute moderation in the thread. Your post was moved because it does not fall within the confines of orthodox theology. Do not post back to back unless responding to a different poster. If you have a complaint, make it to the moderation staff or start a thread in the boiler room.
mastralvarado
July 26th 2007, 07:28 PM
My mother does this practice as well. She literally drinks the wine thinking it is the blood of her Master.
Theostudent
July 26th 2007, 07:31 PM
My mother does this practice as well. She literally drinks the wine thinking it is the blood of her Master.
It is the blood of our master, if you belive what he has spoken, as he speaks only that which the Father commanded him, and I will follow whatever it is that the Father commands me, to the best of my human ability.
[edited to add material from back to back post]
malstro what is shariah law, please give me a run down on it, so i can learn from your knowledge.
mastralvarado
July 26th 2007, 07:41 PM
Shariah law literally means "the way to water". It is a not a man madeup political framework. It is the a set of guidelines compiled by men which seek to govern people in all aspects including moral. If you want to learn more about Shariah visit al-islam.org (http://al-islam.org/short/shariah.htm).
later.
Theostudent
July 26th 2007, 08:07 PM
Shariah law literally means "the way to water". It is a not a man madeup political framework. It is the a set of guidelines compiled by men which seek to govern people in all aspects including moral. If you want to learn more about Shariah visit al-islam.org (http://al-islam.org/short/shariah.htm).
later.
i looked at it, and see its true form, as the Father has given each peoples a Law and a Way, My way is with the Master, as so shall yours be also, as the door is open for all muslims to enter in the the way of the Master, for he is your Messiah, your deliverer, we are all Muslims, we all submit to God and that makes us a muslim, Abraham did not have the Quran yet he was a muslim, Jesus did not have the Quran yet he was a muslim, Good brother, stick to the Law that your Lord has ordained for you, but also be sure to follow the teachings of our master Joshua the Annointed.
Peace
Michael T.
July 27th 2007, 06:47 AM
Theostudent,
The wine of the Lord’s Supper is representative; i.e. symbolic of Christ’s blood.
The Roman-catholic theory – and it has never been more than that; a theory – that the wine in the Lord’s Supper is the literal actual blood of Jesus Christ of Nazareth – is pretentious, imaginative, and absurd, and this, together with its associated superstition; the illusion of so-called “transubstantiation,” are gross examples of the numerous superstitions so dear to the deluded minds and hearts of gullible and easily-hoodwinked people who fill the pews of the roman-catholic religious cult-system.
your comment is merely a concoction of your mind, with no spiritual value, you are a whitewashed tomb.
So you’re a roman-catholic?
And since you call yourself a “theological student,” then, assuming that you may possibly have some acquaintance with the Scriptures, please cite the particular Scripture verse references which specifically state that roman-catholic “priests” have been empowered by God to change flour and water [i.e. bread] and grape juice into the literal flesh and blood of Jesus of Nazareth.
As to your reference to “whitewashed tombs,” would you agree that a person who falsely claims to possess the magical ability to change bread and wine into the literal flesh and blood of the long-dead Jesus of Nazareth but is however incapable of doing so, but instead hoodwinks many gullible people into gullibly believing that such a much-touted magical change has actually occurred although it has never ever done so, nor ever needs to do so – will you not agree that such charlatans and deceivers as these are whitewashed tombs, whereas people who like myself, who draw others’ attention to such trickery and deceit are to be not condemned, as you have done, but instead commended.
Michael T.
Nang
July 27th 2007, 12:12 PM
Deutoronomy 12:23
23 Only be sure that you do not eat the blood, for the blood is the life, and you shall not eat the life with the flesh.
I find this verse interesting, in that the jews do not see the correlation to what the Lord was teaching, that the Blood of Jesus is the true life as when jesus said.
John 6:55 (Show me John 6)
For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink.
Do they not see that Joshua bright the true drink and life in his blood?
It is faith in the sacrificial shedding of Jesus' blood that brings life; not human consumption of His blood.
We are saved by faith, not by partaking of the RCC eucharist, which is nothing but sorcery.
Christ exchanged His life's blood for the sins of His people. That is the gospel.
You, as a student, would be wise to heed Michael T. rather than calling him names.
Nang
Jnthn
July 27th 2007, 12:16 PM
your comment is merely a concoction of your mind, with no spiritual value, you are a whitewashed tomb.Watch your choice of language Theostudent. Just because you use Jesus' words, it doesn't mean you're not Pharisaical in your understanding of scripture.
J
stuart shepherd
July 27th 2007, 01:41 PM
Deuteronomy 12:23-25 (King James Version)
23Only be sure that thou eat not the blood: for the blood is the life; and thou mayest not eat the life with the flesh.
24Thou shalt not eat it; thou shalt pour it upon the earth as water.
25Thou shalt not eat it; that it may go well with thee, and with thy children after thee, when thou shalt do that which is right in the sight of the LORD.
When you look at Deuteronomy 12:23 in context you can see that the Bible says three times not to eat the blood. Did God change his mind about eating blood?
stuart shepherd
Theostudent
July 27th 2007, 01:53 PM
Theostudent,
So you’re a roman-catholic?
And since you call yourself a “theological student,” then, assuming that you may possibly have some acquaintance with the Scriptures, please cite the particular Scripture verse references which specifically state that roman-catholic “priests” have been empowered by God to change flour and water [i.e. bread] and grape juice into the literal flesh and blood of Jesus of Nazareth.
As to your reference to “whitewashed tombs,” would you agree that a person who falsely claims to possess the magical ability to change bread and wine into the literal flesh and blood of the long-dead Jesus of Nazareth but is however incapable of doing so, but instead hoodwinks many gullible people into gullibly believing that such a much-touted magical change has actually occurred although it has never ever done so, nor ever needs to do so – will you not agree that such charlatans and deceivers as these are whitewashed tombs, whereas people who like myself, who draw others’ attention to such trickery and deceit are to be not condemned, as you have done, but instead commended.
Michael T.
I am nothing of the sort of roman catholic, I am a Servent to my Master and I will do as the Master commands, he says Drink my Blood, I drink his Blood, He says eat his flesh, I eat his flesh.
You exalt yourself in many ways i see from the last part of your paragraph
The Exalted shall be humbled, Brother.
Theostudent
July 27th 2007, 01:54 PM
Watch your choice of language Theostudent. Just because you use Jesus' words, it doesn't mean you're not Pharisaical in your understanding of scripture.
J
the annointing interprets the words for me.
Theostudent
July 27th 2007, 01:54 PM
Deuteronomy 12:23-25 (King James Version)
23Only be sure that thou eat not the blood: for the blood is the life; and thou mayest not eat the life with the flesh.
24Thou shalt not eat it; thou shalt pour it upon the earth as water.
25Thou shalt not eat it; that it may go well with thee, and with thy children after thee, when thou shalt do that which is right in the sight of the LORD.
When you look at Deuteronomy 12:23 in context you can see that the Bible says three times not to eat the blood. Did God change his mind about eating blood?
stuart shepherd
In the new Covenant, we are to consume the Blood of ur Lord, or you have no life in you, I consume his Blood and eat of his Flesh, and I gain eternal life, being raised up on the last day.
Jnthn
July 27th 2007, 01:55 PM
I am nothing of the sort of roman catholic, I am a Servent to my Master and I will do as the Master commands, he says Drink my Blood, I drink his Blood, He says eat his flesh, I eat his flesh.
You exalt yourself in many ways i see from the last part of your paragraph
The Exalted shall be humbled, Brother.You're starting to sound like the bad guy from a Dan Brown novel. You'll get a better response by speaking like a human.
Every time I read your words I envisage a bearded monastic type shouting "BLASPHEMY!" at the top of his lungs
J
Jnthn
July 27th 2007, 01:56 PM
the annointing interprets the words for me.Your fruit suggests otherwise.
J
Nang
July 27th 2007, 01:58 PM
I am nothing of the sort of roman catholic, I am a Servent to my Master and I will do as the Master commands, he says Drink my Blood, I drink his Blood, He says eat his flesh, I eat his flesh.
I won't even ask how you think you can literally fulfill this notion. I don't want to know.
:brood:
Theostudent
July 27th 2007, 02:02 PM
You're starting to sound like the bad guy from a Dan Brown novel. You'll get a better response by speaking like a human.
Every time I read your words I envisage a bearded monastic type shouting "BLASPHEMY!" at the top of his lungs
J
if i am not speaking like a human, what is it that i speak like?
language is a form for us to do art with, as my Lord used also.
Theostudent
July 27th 2007, 02:03 PM
Your fruit suggests otherwise.
J
YOu see my Fruit? please show me my Fruit.
Theostudent
July 27th 2007, 02:04 PM
I won't even ask how you think you can literally fulfill this notion. I don't want to know.
:brood:
In faith, the bread is the Flesh and in Faith the Wine is the Blood.
Just as in Faith the Son of Man is the Son of God.
Jnthn
July 27th 2007, 02:07 PM
if i am not speaking like a human, what is it that i speak like?
language is a form for us to do art with, as my Lord used also.Asked and answered.
YOu see my Fruit? please show me my FruitYou can start by looking at your profile and clicking the "find all posts by Theostudent" option.
J
Nang
July 27th 2007, 02:21 PM
In faith, the bread is the Flesh and in Faith the Wine is the Blood.
That is still sorcery; only you are the sorcerer instead of the priest.
Faith is not a means to change the bread to flesh, nor the means to change the wine to blood.
Just as in Faith the Son of Man is the Son of God.
Jesus Christ is the Son of Man and the Son of God, whether men are given faith to believe so, or not.
Faith is not a means of establishing truths; it is the Godly gift of comprehending the things of God via the power of the Holy Spirit. (See I Cor. 2:14&15)
Theostudent
July 27th 2007, 05:22 PM
Asked and answered.
You can start by looking at your profile and clicking the "find all posts by Theostudent" option.
J
please refer to which post you are talking about please, let us discuss my evil fruit as you have judged me to have mr. J
Theostudent
July 27th 2007, 05:23 PM
That is still sorcery; only you are the sorcerer instead of the priest.
Faith is not a means to change the bread to flesh, nor the means to change the wine to blood.
Jesus Christ is the Son of Man and the Son of God, whether men are given faith to believe so, or not.
Faith is not a means of establishing truths; it is the Godly gift of comprehending the things of God via the power of the Holy Spirit. (See I Cor. 2:14&15)
exactly, i comprehend through faith that the wine is blood, and the bread is flesh, as my lord so commands i drink his blood and eat his flesh and by doing so i will be raised up on the last and for eternal life, do you say I am a liar?
Nang
July 27th 2007, 06:17 PM
exactly, i comprehend through faith that the wine is blood, and the bread is flesh, as my lord so commands i drink his blood and eat his flesh and by doing so i will be raised up on the last and for eternal life, do you say I am a liar?
No, I do not say you are a liar, but you are seriously mistaken.
The elements of communion are only signs of the flesh and blood of Jesus Christ. It is not necessary to believe bread becomes flesh or wine becomes blood, in order to place your faith in the very flesh and blood of Christ that was offered on the cross.
The elements of the Lord's Supper (bread and wine) remain bread and wine, established by the Lord, as a means to show we remember the Lord's death.
Please note, when Jesus instituted this sacrament, He called the elements "bread" and the wine a "cup"; signifying that they represented His body and blood, and partaking of the bread and cup constitutes a continual remembrance and witness to His death:
"For as often as you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord's death till He comes." I Cor. 11:26
If the bread actually becomes His body, and the cup of wine actually becomes His blood, the instructions would be "For as often as you eat this body and drink this blood, you proclaim the Lord's death till He comes." But that is not the summation of Holy Scripture. (I Cor. 11:26-28)
The bread and cup remain bread and cup, even though they represent Christ's body and blood.
It is not more, and should not be made more, mystical than this.
themuzicman
July 27th 2007, 06:20 PM
The key element to understanding John 6 is bread and Christ's flesh. Jesus is making a contrast between the Old Covenant (Moses and Manna), and the New Covenant (Christ and His flesh), and saying that the people should believe in Him, because this is the work of the New Covenant (John 6:27-29). The "eat my flesh and drink my blood" is a follow on to the Israelites who grumbled about no bread and no water, and were subsequently not allowed into the promised land.
Michael
Jnthn
July 27th 2007, 06:23 PM
please refer to which post you are talking about please, let us discuss my evil fruit as you have judged me to have mr. JYou do have problems parsing my posts, dont you? I didn't point you to a post, I pointed to all of them.
J
Sparko
July 27th 2007, 07:16 PM
i drink his blood and eat his flesh and by doing so i will be raised up on the last and for eternal life.
hmm
do you think that taking communion saves you?
Theostudent
July 27th 2007, 08:56 PM
No, I do not say you are a liar, but you are seriously mistaken.
The elements of communion are only signs of the flesh and blood of Jesus Christ. It is not necessary to believe bread becomes flesh or wine becomes blood, in order to place your faith in the very flesh and blood of Christ that was offered on the cross.
The elements of the Lord's Supper (bread and wine) remain bread and wine, established by the Lord, as a means to show we remember the Lord's death.
Please note, when Jesus instituted this sacrament, He called the elements "bread" and the wine a "cup"; signifying that they represented His body and blood, and partaking of the bread and cup constitutes a continual remembrance and witness to His death:
"For as often as you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord's death till He comes." I Cor. 11:26
If the bread actually becomes His body, and the cup of wine actually becomes His blood, the instructions would be "For as often as you eat this body and drink this blood, you proclaim the Lord's death till He comes." But that is not the summation of Holy Scripture. (I Cor. 11:26-28)
The bread and cup remain bread and cup, even though they represent Christ's body and blood.
It is not more, and should not be made more, mystical than this.
I am sorry the annointing God has given me tells me that you do not speak the truth, but a theory you have made in your own mind, my masters words will agree with me.
Theostudent
July 27th 2007, 08:57 PM
The key element to understanding John 6 is bread and Christ's flesh. Jesus is making a contrast between the Old Covenant (Moses and Manna), and the New Covenant (Christ and His flesh), and saying that the people should believe in Him, because this is the work of the New Covenant (John 6:27-29). The "eat my flesh and drink my blood" is a follow on to the Israelites who grumbled about no bread and no water, and were subsequently not allowed into the promised land.
Michael
i do not agree with your interpretation.
Theostudent
July 27th 2007, 08:57 PM
You do have problems parsing my posts, dont you? I didn't point you to a post, I pointed to all of them.
J
I see that you have no logic behind your statements so you are hiding behind a generalization, nice try, please give me the Evil fruit that I have created, or do not speak again.
Theostudent
July 27th 2007, 08:59 PM
hmm
do you think that taking communion saves you?
What comes about from the Holy Communion I have with my Lord in the Innermost chamber of my Soul is what Saves me, The Blood and Flesh are merely Food that gives me the power to reach this place inside of the being of man, By communing with my Lord Joshua by consuming Hos blood and eating his flesh I am able to allows My lord to remove the viel and see into the true mystery of God the Father and His Son Joshua.
Jnthn
July 27th 2007, 09:03 PM
I see that you have no logic behind your statements so you are hiding behind a generalization, nice try, please give me the Evil fruit that I have created, or do not speak again.Just because you fail to see the "logic" does not mean that it doesn't exist.
You're beginning to sound like a troll.
J
Sparko
July 27th 2007, 09:31 PM
What comes about from the Holy Communion I have with my Lord in the Innermost chamber of my Soul is what Saves me, The Blood and Flesh are merely Food that gives me the power to reach this place inside of the being of man, By communing with my Lord Joshua by consuming Hos blood and eating his flesh I am able to allows My lord to remove the viel and see into the true mystery of God the Father and His Son Joshua.
sounds like a lot of jargon to me.
How are you saved? by performing an act of eating and drinking?
Crow
July 27th 2007, 11:14 PM
Theostudent, your two practically identical threads were merged into this one. Please direct your posts on this subject into this thread. This way the forum does not get flooded with numerous threads about a single subject.
Theostudent
July 28th 2007, 03:08 AM
Just because you fail to see the "logic" does not mean that it doesn't exist.
You're beginning to sound like a troll.
Ji am no troll only a servent of my God and brother.
Theostudent
July 28th 2007, 03:08 AM
sounds like a lot of jargon to me.
How are you saved? by performing an act of eating and drinking?
you work out your own salvation, as so the lord has commanded with free will.
Sparko
July 28th 2007, 08:39 AM
you work out your own salvation, as so the lord has commanded with free will.
so you save yourself then?
Theostudent
August 1st 2007, 04:27 PM
so you save yourself then?
No, I work out my own salvation with the annointing that comes with Joshua, and from my Father.
as it is written
Philippians 2:12 (Show me Philippians 2)
Lights in the World
Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, so now, not only as in my presence but much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling,
:eek:
Sparko
August 1st 2007, 08:20 PM
No, I work out my own salvation with the annointing that comes with Joshua, and from my Father.
as it is written
Philippians 2:12 (Show me Philippians 2)
Lights in the World
Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, so now, not only as in my presence but much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling,
:eek:
I think I will allow Jesus to save me. I know I can't do it myself. Good luck with that.
Theostudent
August 1st 2007, 10:45 PM
I think I will allow Jesus to save me. I know I can't do it myself. Good luck with that.
Dont listen to jesus and the scritpures then, belive in the own thing you have made, good luck with that brother, because if it is not based in God or the true joshua, goodbye.
The truth in in the scruptures, not in yourself, you fall much astray, your Jesus is a concoction of your mind if it is not in line with his words, you fall much astray.
Sparko
August 2nd 2007, 12:06 AM
Dont listen to jesus and the scritpures then, belive in the own thing you have made, good luck with that brother, because if it is not based in God or the true joshua, goodbye.
The truth in in the scruptures, not in yourself, you fall much astray, your Jesus is a concoction of your mind if it is not in line with his words, you fall much astray.
um. sounds like you are describing yourself, buddy. Your parody of Christianity is nothing like what the bible describes and teaches.
Getting drunk on the Lord's blood? come on! get real!
When I drink the wine, that represents jesus blood, i drink quite a bit, and it makes me have holy thoughts of God, it is by far my most favorite sacrement that the Lord gave us, drinking his Blood is my favorite thing to do while i contemplate about my heavenly Father, sometimes i drink alot of his blood, it really makes me feel good.
1 Corinthians 11
20When you come together, it is not the Lord's Supper you eat, 21for as you eat, each of you goes ahead without waiting for anybody else. One remains hungry, another gets drunk. 22Don't you have homes to eat and drink in? Or do you despise the church of God and humiliate those who have nothing? What shall I say to you? Shall I praise you for this? Certainly not! 23For I received from the Lord what I also passed on to you: The Lord Jesus, on the night he was betrayed, took bread, 24and when he had given thanks, he broke it and said, "This is my body, which is for you; do this in remembrance of me." 25In the same way, after supper he took the cup, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in my blood; do this, whenever you drink it, in remembrance of me." 26For whenever you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord's death until he comes.
27Therefore, whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of sinning against the body and blood of the Lord. 28A man ought to examine himself before he eats of the bread and drinks of the cup. 29For anyone who eats and drinks without recognizing the body of the Lord eats and drinks judgment on himself.
Theostudent
August 2nd 2007, 11:51 AM
um. sounds like you are describing yourself, buddy. Your parody of Christianity is nothing like what the bible describes and teaches.
Getting drunk on the Lord's blood? come on! get real!
1 Corinthians 11
20When you come together, it is not the Lord's Supper you eat, 21for as you eat, each of you goes ahead without waiting for anybody else. One remains hungry, another gets drunk. 22Don't you have homes to eat and drink in? Or do you despise the church of God and humiliate those who have nothing? What shall I say to you? Shall I praise you for this? Certainly not! 23For I received from the Lord what I also passed on to you: The Lord Jesus, on the night he was betrayed, took bread, 24and when he had given thanks, he broke it and said, "This is my body, which is for you; do this in remembrance of me." 25In the same way, after supper he took the cup, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in my blood; do this, whenever you drink it, in remembrance of me." 26For whenever you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord's death until he comes.
27Therefore, whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of sinning against the body and blood of the Lord. 28A man ought to examine himself before he eats of the bread and drinks of the cup. 29For anyone who eats and drinks without recognizing the body of the Lord eats and drinks judgment on himself.
Obviously I do not get drunk at church, that would be unnacaptable, and at all times I am examaning myself and giving praise to God in my soul and mind for all he has done for me.
In no way do I drink the lords blood in an unworthy manner, the lord gave us the wine as his blood as wine is a godly gift, for society and for mankind, alcohol abuse is not something I condone, I do not abuse alcohol but drink in the wine in all humility before my King, for My king says that he will drink the wine new with me in our fathers kingdom, and this prophecy has come true for i have entered the kingdom of God and it is glorious.
I always recognize the wine and bread as the blood and flesh of my lord, in no way do I drink or eat judgeemnt on myself according to the scriptures.
Sparko
August 2nd 2007, 06:31 PM
Obviously I do not get drunk at church, that would be unnacaptable, and at all times I am examaning myself and giving praise to God in my soul and mind for all he has done for me.
In no way do I drink the lords blood in an unworthy manner, the lord gave us the wine as his blood as wine is a godly gift, for society and for mankind, alcohol abuse is not something I condone, I do not abuse alcohol but drink in the wine in all humility before my King, for My king says that he will drink the wine new with me in our fathers kingdom, and this prophecy has come true for i have entered the kingdom of God and it is glorious.
I always recognize the wine and bread as the blood and flesh of my lord, in no way do I drink or eat judgeemnt on myself according to the scriptures.
riiigggghhhtttt... so what did you mean by "sometimes i drink alot of his blood, it really makes me feel good."
rstrats
August 2nd 2007, 06:41 PM
Has anyone given any thought to the possibility that this Theostudent guy is just putting everyone on?
Theostudent
August 3rd 2007, 04:23 PM
riiigggghhhtttt... so what did you mean by "sometimes i drink alot of his blood, it really makes me feel good."
Abusing alcohol is differant than enjoying the effects it has on the human mind.
When i consume the wine that is the lords blood the effect it has on my mind is most gracious to me.
it enlarges my heart and disinhibits my mind.
I thank the Lord Jesus for giving us such a blessed beverage to consume.
Theostudent
August 3rd 2007, 04:24 PM
Has anyone given any thought to the possibility that this Theostudent guy is just putting everyone on?
putting everyone on what?
what would my purpose be?
Sparko
August 3rd 2007, 07:36 PM
Abusing alcohol is differant than enjoying the effects it has on the human mind.
When i consume the wine that is the lords blood the effect it has on my mind is most gracious to me.
it enlarges my heart and disinhibits my mind.
I thank the Lord Jesus for giving us such a blessed beverage to consume.
sure you do.
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