Originally posted by Johnny EC

Linky Linky

Linky. Whoops. Just scroll down a bit. The thread originally started out as having praise for The God Who Wasn't There. Ha.

Originally posted by P-Dunn

Linky. Whoops. Just scroll down a bit. The thread originally started out as having praise for The God Who Wasn't There. Ha.

P. Dunn you might want to read and link calpurnpiso to J.P.holding's article Off the Edge of the Lunatic Fringe it answers the question you asked Calpurnpiso in a nutshell, he's part of the idiot group that believes that all we know about History is made up.

addenum: should have checked the forum you linked to first you did show them JPs work. good job btw answering everyone there.

Originally posted by RumTumTugger

P. Dunn you might want to read and link calpurnpiso to J.P.holding's article Off the Edge of the Lunatic Fringe it answers the question you asked Calpurnpiso in a nutshell, he's part of the idiot group that believes that all we know about History is made up.

addenum: should have checked the forum you linked to first you did show them JPs work. good job btw answering everyone there.

Unfortunately, he ignored the link, like practically everything else I've said. Because, according to him, all true historians believe his story. Only Christians would assert Jesus existed as a historical figure!

Thanks...I didn't think I was doing very well. It seems like every single member there is a Christ-myther.

Dimbo (Brooks Trubee) wins Gold for this update on the anointed-one.com Holding Hate Site on the subject of "business". Before it said little more than this:

Today [Holding]'s apologetics-for-money business is going well-and getting better. In a post on the Theology Web discussion boards, Mr. [Holding] revealed the amount of income he had received from donors from 2000 to 2002. As you can see, his home-business grew by leaps and bounds.

Originally the deal was that I was a money grubbing televangelist sort; but now it's a little different, as this has been added:

Based on his comments on Theology Web, [Holding] wants to keep the donations to Tektonics Apologetic Ministries, Inc. below $25,000. If the donations get to $25,000, of course, [Holding] would be obligated to make Tektonics Inc.'s income statements public...

One can surmise that [Holding] wants to keep the donations below $25,000 so that he does not have to publically reveal exactly what the money is used for, which probably includes groceries and mortgage payments.

So I want your money, but not TOO much of it, thanks.

(By the way, yeah...it DOES include groceries and mortgage payments...that's what a "salary" is usually for, when a non-profit pays its workers...)

Originally posted by jpholding

Dimbo (Brooks Trubee) wins Gold for this update on the anointed-one.com Holding Hate Site on the subject of "business". Before it said little more than this:



Originally the deal was that I was a money grubbing televangelist sort; but now it's a little different, as this has been added:





So I want your money, but not TOO much of it, thanks.

(By the way, yeah...it DOES include groceries and mortgage payments...that's what a "salary" is usually for, when a non-profit pays its workers...)

I wonder if he's paid his F.F.R.F. dues lately.

Thumper:

http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showthread.php?t=78906

Originally posted by THUMPER

You cannot escape you own attitudes, for they will form the very nature of your reality; we see what we wish to see. We must change our attitudes first as they will remain, however changes bring consciousness.

Does religion provide attitudes about life, yes it does.

Your thoughts creat reality, en mass we form what we wish to see, feel and hear; our closed system of beliefs form what little reality we see.

As best we can, we make things "beleavable" as in our world things must have some "credibility"; a God is made into the form of a man and religions sprout like weeds. Most, if not the majority of religions creat a battle of "good v. evil" and the good guy in the white hat always wins; sound familiar?

We creat what we want, always have, always will.

Our telepathy operates constantly, we creat by thought and the physical follows. Consciousness, the thoughts, come first beofre anything else. Before we had a body, we were "us", the individule. If one thinks about another in a suggestive -negative way the results, to some extent, will act upon them in a negative way. What projections you send have validity in our reality. The more the numbers of "beleavers" the more solid this reality becomes. We are now focused in this time, this space, this earth as we created it and believe in it.

What you see in others is the materialization-the projection of what you see in yourself. If a person seems decietful to you, then you decieve yourself. A projection and interpretation of oneself. It all goes around to each.

We are all multi dimensional-personalities, and within you lies all the knoweldege of yourself that you will ever need to know.

Ideas generate emotion, like attracts like, so simalar ideas group around you (religions) and this fits your particular system of ideas-reality.

Ideas represent your psychic intent. They generate emotion and imagination. They are the motive force of action. This is the creative force from which all realities spring. Imagination is the most concentrated form of energy that you possess as a physical creature; more power exist in simple imagination than the power it takes to send a rocket to the moon. Evrything we see today in this world was once simple imagination, yet, imagination started it all from the blueprints to physical form.

Limiting ideas (religions) therefore predispose you to accept ideas of a simalar nature. Exuberant ideas, freedom, spontaneity and joy automatically collect others of thier kind also. There is a conscious interplay between yourself and others in the exchange of ideas, both telepathecally and on a conscious level. You react to this exchange based on your ideas about yourself and your reality.

Religion can indeed provide the very "demons" you seek as your beliefs are so strong in them they will gain some validity. A demon may have no power over you as it is not grounded in reality as you are; however, many times persons of religion have passed on and met thier fate based on thier expectations and system of belief. In time ( and time is a facade) such persons were taught the "hellish" reality they find themselves in isen't real enough to hold them. And it will fall away and reality will spring forward. Be carefull what you wish for. A demon can only hold you if you allow it.

All times, all percieved-space, all things exist at once in a fraction of a heartbeat, perceptions limit what we experience, nothing starts or ends as this is not the nature of reality, only perception. Deja-vu is an example of expanded consciousness, we see -feel or sense something that may have occurd prior, or did it? It occured now, we simply bumped into it as maybe our eyes were open at that time. :)

Telepathic communication is constant at the unconscious level merly because the conscious mind is in a state of becoming...as an example
if your thoughts are relatively positive you will react to thoughts of the same or simalar nature; anyone can think negative about you without effect on you as you do not buy into thier ideas.

You make your reality. You get what you concentrate on-there is no other main rule.

You may also react to inner information at an uncounscious level collected under your organization of your conscious concepts. So you are locked into physical situations that are corroborated by the greater psychic consciousness of others. Like being at a dance, sometimes others want a certain song you don't like, and the song plays while others dance, you sit, this is your preception, so it is valid.

You form your reality directly. You react consciously and uncounsciously your beliefs. You collect from the physical universe (you created), and the interior one, data that seems to corroborate your beliefs and that forms your perceptive reality.

You must become aware of your own structures (beliefs). Build them, or tear them down, but don't yourself become blind to the furniture (beliefs) of your mind, it will help you, in fact, furniture can be rearranged, changed, renewed, thrown out ect. Pick what furniture you like. See what is inside the drawers or how well your end tables fit together.

Bad ideas, like furniture, will ramin together unless you elect to place them elsewhere..

The conscious mind is the vehicle for the expression of the soul in corporeal terms. Your made up in body by your beleafs. Consciousness creats reality, it's not the other way around.

The first important step to realize your beliefs about reality are just that-beliefs about oneself , they do not neccesarily make up reality without the ability to change it. What you wish-imagine-think can all be changed with imagination and thought.

The very nature of reality has it's complexities; this is wide open for discussion. Truley having an open mind to contemplate information must exist, absent that, this Webpage is useless.

In closing I must say I do not wish to offend religious ones. We think and therefore we are.

He posted this in PoliSci.

Here's a nut.

The St. Petersburg times - New - Lion Kills Man in Kiev

KIEV — A man shouting that God would keep him safe was mauled to death by a lioness in the Kiev Zoo after he crept into an enclosure, a zoo official said Monday.

“The man shouted ‘God will save me, if he exists,’ lowered himself by a rope into the enclosure, took his shoes off and went up to the lions,” the official said.

So this is not the way of testing the existance of God.

Originally posted by P-Dunn

Unfortunately, he ignored the link, like practically everything else I've said. Because, according to him, all true historians believe his story. Only Christians would assert Jesus existed as a historical figure!

That's the nature of the Piso Conspiricy Nuts anyone that doesn't agree with them is not a true historian because only those who belong or have belonged to the piso family have the true history.

Thanks...I didn't think I was doing very well. It seems like every single member there is a Christ-myther.

P-Dunn you answered all their objections clearly and respectfully where required. It's a case this tiem of the horse not being a horse but a stubborn mule so you aren't even able to lead them to the water much less make them drink it. Dont worry about it I'm sure there are those reading it that have listened.

Originally posted by Leonhard

Here's a nut.

The St. Petersburg times - New - Lion Kills Man in Kiev



So this is not the way of testing the existance of God.

Well, if the object of the game is to find out for certain - yeah, it worked. Now, if you're trying to prove it to your buddy and/or would rather not explain to God why you were testing Him, then it stinks.

Originally posted by jpholding

(By the way, yeah...it DOES include groceries and mortgage payments...that's what a "salary" is usually for, when a non-profit pays its workers...)

What? No air-conditioned dog houses, golden thrones, giant pink wigs for your wife or junkets to Las Vegas to inspect strip clubs?

I demand an accounting!

Adam:
http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...1&postcount=59

6. Pope Pius XII, up for sainthood, actually had a monstrous impact on 20th Century Europe. He was the primary architect of centralization of Vatican power in consolidating all past papal decrees. He caused both World War I and World War II. See Hitler's Pope by Cornwell. (As Pope he got better, and he is unjustly portrayed as a tool of Hitler in the war.)

Moderated By: Sparko

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You modded you own post?

i just made a new post to put my notice in about the split so people would know where to go to.

It takes quite a bit to derail a screwball thread so congratulations to all involved. Nice job, but take it elsewhere.

LOL.

Do the screwballs have to have to be contemporary? How about three decadeish?

Here's something I dug out of the positive atheist site!

http://www.positiveatheism.org/india/gora21.htm

The slave-mind, contained in theistic faith, abetted inequality. By meek submission, slaves permitted capitalists, autocrats and aristocrats to ride roughshod and made tyrants of their brothers. Tyranny does not end until slavery is abolished, and slavery does not go until theism is abolished. So freedom-loving, honest persons naturally spread atheism in order to rouse the masses against tyranny of any kind. Among such stalwarts were Moses, the Buddha, Socrates, Confucius, Jesus, Mohammad, Voltaire, Marx and Gandhi.

Jesus, Buddha (which is a titel and not a name!) and Mohammed as atheists!!!

I goes on and on like this...

Jesus was crucified for uttering "blasphemy." And here I he was convicted of causing civil disorder... The atheistic method of understanding requires, of course, the freedom of the individual to imagine as well as to verify the inferences. But theists go so far as to consider the freedom itself an illusion. I thought it was othen the other way around?

He rambles on and on about atheistic philosophy being superior to theistic philosophy. Him even talking about an atheistic philosophy is in itself absurd, since atheism is about not believing in god/s and not about a whole point of view at the great whole whatever.

Several savants are known to be eminently scientific in laboratories but conventionally superstitious in their personal life. Some of them use charms omens and amulets, repose belief in miracles, and attend to prayers in obedience to custom. Obviously such scientists do not have the scientific mind. So dishonest theists and greedy politicians easily use their talents for prosecuting wars and establishing dictatorships.So only religious scientist are pursuing war efforts? Science is essentially atheistic. No, atheism is not about science But, without the avowed adoption of atheism, scientific progress is liable to be misused. So if get rid of all these supersticious jerks we will have no more nukes and guns

Check it out if you want to see a raving indien philosopher make broad generalisations and hapstac assumptions about virtually everything!

*note text in bold is my own

The perpetual flat tyre that is BibleWheel:

Originally posted by BibleWheel

As for TWeb not being cached ... gee, I wonder why not? Oh, I know! Its because of the that tag you put in all the headers in the hope of hiding your corruption.
TheologyWeb Campus - powered by swamp fever!

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What ever could you be hiding?

Proof positive that correct HTML is of the Devil.

J