I have just written this article as a cooperative effort between myself and Answers in Action (Bob and Gretchen Passantino's ministry):

http://www.answers.org/issues/davincicode.html

Comments are welcome!

Great article JP... a masterpiece as usual!

He used Holy Blood, Holy Grail authoritatively.

'Nuff Said

Excellent work James.

very entertaining.

I gotta stop reading these things in class. I'm never gonna get any homework done. Excellent article however!

Well, I just finished a one hour radio interview on KFUO in St. Louis about this. They say it will be available online tomorrow, and I'll see about a link so everyone can hear my stuffy-nose voice.

JPH,

I think you have one thing wrong in your article. You note that Constantine had Arian leanings, but it was in fact Constantius, his son (or nephew, I never remember which) not Constantine. Constantine was anti-Arian for the sole reason that it (Orthodoxy) was the majority view. He wanted peace in the church and really did not care about theology (see Aloys Grillmeier, Christ in Christian Tradition: Volume One, From the Apostolic Age to Chalcedon, [trans. John Bowden; Atlanta, Geo.: John Knox Press, 1975], 262-64), though he leaned more towards Adoptionism than either Arianism or Orthodoxy.

Otherwise, it is a wonderful article.

Heya Jaltus,

What I had in mind was stuff like this:

http://ancienthistory.about.com/libr...y/aa082499.htm

The Trinitarian bishops prevailed. Emperor Constantine was not himself a Christian. Despite this, he had recently made Christianity the official state religion of the Roman empire. This made heresy akin to revolt, so Constantine exiled the excommunicated Arius to Illyria. Constantine's friend Eusebius, who eventually withdrew his objection but still wouldn't sign the statement of faith, and a neighboring bishop, Theognis, were also exiled -- to Gaul. Constantine reversed his opinion about the Arian heresy, and had the two bishops reinstated three years later (in 328). At the same time, Arius was recalled from exile.

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/01707c.htm

Arius openly triumphed; but as he went about in parade, the evening before this event was to take place, he expired from a sudden disorder, which Catholics could not help regarding as a judgment of heaven, due to the bishop's prayers. His death, however, did not stay the plague. Constantine now favoured none but Arians; he was baptized in his last moments by the shifty prelate of Nicomedia; and he bequeathed to his three sons (337) an empire torn by dissensions which his ignorance and weakness had aggravated.

This would obviously affect Brown's attempt to make Constantine the bad guy as he wants...thoughts? Should it be more precise?

He brought the Arians back because of political pressure and he wanted to leave behind a united church. He was baptized by an Arian in order to show that they were worthwhile as practicioners.

Also, he was already a Christian. The guy I quoted is a if not the leading patristics scholar.

Jaltus:

He brought the Arians back because of political pressure and he wanted to leave behind a united church. He was baptized by an Arian in order to show that they were worthwhile as practicioners.

Also, he was already a Christian. The guy I quoted is a if not the leading patristics scholar.

OK. That still sure does not fit the picture of him Brown is trying to foist (as if it helped that he didn't even get the purpse of the Nicean Council right, much less the vote tally!). If anyone inquires I'll keep that in mind.

Here's a link to the interview I did:

http://kfuo.org/Issues_Main_page.htm

I'm on the first hour. Little new in it if you've read the article, other than Brown's claim to be a "Christian"!

J.P.

The code is such pure garbage! Given that so many people love eating garbage, it's nice to have something to give to them that proves it. Thanks for busting the code!!!

Gee.....fiction!!!!!! The woman is right, it is just fiction. Have you ever read a book of Robin Cook? Do you really think all these things happen in hospitals? Or ever read a science fiction book. Watched Star Trek on the telly? FICTION!!! That why it is called fiction...You don't believe all you read, I hope. A writers prerogative to let his/her imagination go wild. Artistic freedom....

Lots of love and sunshine,
Queen

Today @ 06:01 PM post located here
Queen:

Gee.....fiction!!!!!! The woman is right, it is just fiction. Have you ever read a book of Robin Cook? Do you really think all these things happen in hospitals? Or ever read a science fiction book. Watched Star Trek on the telly? FICTION!!! That why it is called fiction...You don't believe all you read, I hope. A writers prerogative to let his/her imagination go wild. Artistic freedom....

JPH's point was correct -- even in a fiction work, it is irresponsible to have a fictional historian presenting false history as though it were fact. Similarly, it would be totally irresponsible to make a Star Trek episode where they go back in time and discover, say, that the Holocaust was a fabrication. It would be equally wrong to have an episode where the leading historian of the United Federation of Planets is protrayed as knowledgeable and a many of complete integrity but claiming that the Holocaust never happened.

Queen:

Gee.....fiction!!!!!! The woman is right, it is just fiction. Have you ever read a book of Robin Cook? Do you really think all these things happen in hospitals? Or ever read a science fiction book. Watched Star Trek on the telly? FICTION!!! That why it is called fiction...You don't believe all you read, I hope. A writers prerogative to let his/her imagination go wild. Artistic freedom....

I thought I was on Ignore! Cook et al however doesn't preface his books with "FACT" and sentences, "All medical claims in this book are correct" and put false statements about medicene in the mouths of doctors.

"Artistic Freedom" -- the standard excuse for being irresponsible. Given her behavior in the other thread, I wonder if Queen would tolerate writers who came out with fiction books that said rape was a good thing...

I will be loading an updated version from the Passantinos today, that will also have an appendix with a link to this discussion, and new information from a couple of assistant researchers....

"Artistic Freedom" -- the standard excuse for being irresponsible. Given her behavior in the other thread, I wonder if Queen would tolerate writers who came out with fiction books that said rape was a good thing...

JP, you can adres me personally.... And my behavior was not that weird or even irresponsable. I reacted from the heart. I even have send you a personal pm also from the heart, asking you to understand my problems with this.....I guess you never read that pm.

I know you think you are very religious, but how religious is it to make fun of other people's trauma's. I hope one day you will feel your religion in your heart as well. Jesus is a good example to learn compassion from.

JP and Soc,

Artistic freedom is important because it is an artist prerogative to change and adapt reality with fantasy. As a painter I use that a lot. I even made a collage once about rape. I also made one about suicide. I saw paintings about rape, suicide, movies comedies that made rape look hilarious and so on. Sometimes I can handle it, other times not. Depends on the things I see. But I would never judge the artist for expressing their artistic views.

Star Trek has time travel......THAT in it self is unrealistic! We can't travel through time, heal every disease, repair damaged DNA and so on. Yet it all happens in Star Trek. I saw a episode about a millenium tower...it was never build, yet there was this whole story about the millenium. I saw many episode about evolution. It is a wellknown fact....evolution...It is true according to Star Trek. Even the ships and the alien species are just fantasy.......If they changed history a bit (which would not happen on this level you are talking about, soc) that would be fine by me.

Books, even if not correct are beautiful. The words that you see on the page open a world of fantasy, the sentences make you feel the atmospere and the chapters lead you to the end that satisfies your fantasy. That is why these books are called fiction. And if you have read i.e. "Brain" by Robin Cook.....we are not able to install a human brain into a computer.........that is still.....rubbish, a vision of the future from a man in the past of that future....It may be medically correct......yet the rest s based on pure fantasy.

There are rappers who rap about all kinds of horrible things, sometimes from the perp's POV....Who am I to say that they are wrong to express their emotions and feelings and fantasy? We should not hold artistic freedom back. It is the beauty of the humanoid brain....fantasy and fiction.

Lots of love and sunshine and JP, may you heart find the warmth that I admire so much in Jesus,
Queen